Very interesting missing persons case and wondering if truckers may be able to help?

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  1. basschica

    basschica Bobtail Member

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    Now you're cooking with gas.

    Totally agree. If I'm being honest....my theory is that this was at least initially part of a master orchestrated scheme to disappear by her. The things I can't explain with the theory are partially due to lack of information/evidence (which police may or may not have since it's an open investigation) and some of the roadblocks to logic. Like, she left behind CC's etc. She had been in school a long time because she was doing her md/phd in CA and graduated in May. Then, she moved to MI this summer to start her residency which give or take is roughly a 45k/yr stipend/salary type thing. What police *have* said is that there hasn't been any activity on her accounts SINCE her disappearance. What I don't know is, whether there is significant evidence to show that maybe she was stockpiling cash for a "bugout" plan. I think she *may* have been. That being said, I know (based on her tweets) that when she moved, she had a guy friend help her with car repairs so she could drive her car (an older 1997 Lexus) to MI. Her aunt also bought her furniture for her apt. She talks in her tweets that were "indirectly conversing" (as in 1 sided and her just talking to herself because I don't believe the singer guy even knew she was doing all this or what her half a dozen twitter names were), about how she was broke because she "moved out here for him" and she was dong everything and he was sitting back doing nothing/taking no responsibility. Of course all of that is entirely irrational...you don't move across the country for a "celebrity" that you don't know, you aren't in a relationship with, etc. I think she has the form of schizophrenia that includes bi-polar type highs/lows (called schizoaffective disorder). Her grandiose complex stuff, voices, believing that God is calling her to do this (no hate against God, but with everything taken into consideration...I do not believe God was speaking to her), and lots of other things.

    I also cannot believe that she worked somewhere, in a psych dept, and they had no clue. Are you kidding me? When I saw just a couple of her tweets I could tell. Then you see well over 20k plus...yikes! Her behavior had to have been weird in many ways. I think she's brilliant. Based on the fact she had 3 undergrad majors, did md/phd, and then was doing her residency...while juggling an obviously serious mental illness, is certainly evidence that she's a brilliant person. Unfortunately, it may have led to her being in some serious danger in the end. =|

    In regards to the scene where her car was...the ISP said they didn't see anything suspicious about it the night of the wreck. A car in a ditch...abandoned and no evidence of her at any gas stations or hotels within miles? Seems suspect to me! So they had it towed...then the delay with the Kzoo sheriff not reporting it for a week and then seeing the match in LEIN about the car impound. It was at that point, a week later that they searched the ground a little better around mile marker 23 on 94wb. The dog (bloodhound) tracked from the ditch where the car was to the road several times. But it had been a week...so who knows for sure. I'm inclined to believe the dog though. If that's the case, what "good samaritan" doesn't say to wait for emergency help to arrive (the person may be hurt and not know it and if you've got a cell (samaritan not her because she obviously left hers at work), then you would know to wait.

    My theory is, she had a 2nd phone (prepaid non-traceable one). She led a friend to believe she was being followed and the police were all part of it so they CANNOT talk to them, because they're bad guys. Friend follows her, she pulls over, people see "good samaritan" (friend) pulled up behind her and keep going (she's obviously already being helped). I'm not sure whether she drove the car in the ditch or pushed it. If the friend had a bigger SUV or something, it could've been pushed. The only thing indicated by the police was that the tire was flat and hadn't been really driven on, so not a tire blowout by any means...they didn't say whether it was a wear hole/valve stem or if they could not determine "why" it went flat. The car place that had done repairs on her car while she had the loaner/rental had told her the tires were REALLY bad and needed to be replaced ASAP. I find it hard to believe that police have not had the tire put in a water tank to figure out "how" it went flat. Either way, I think friend then immediately picked her up and took off. IF the dog track was wrong..then my secondary theory is that she had a friend waiting at the lot that is by the Shelton Fireworks there just north of the exit. That's a HUGE open lot and probably not even 1/8mile from where her car ditched, since it was right at the mm23 location and approximately 40 ft from the road in the ditch.

    Obviously all speculation and yeah...this one has been really interesting with the twists and turns and so much that people have been able to dig up online. Typically you only have friend/family accounts of the person and their whereabouts/state of mind etc. and that doesn't usually say much. Like, in this case there's obviously a LOT the family didn't know about her. Based on her tweets though, both her brother and her sister knew that she has this obsession with the singer and picked the school in MI because of it. She had been applying/interviewing at some really big schools/programs, so to pick WMU was a big shock and a decision she made really quickly. And while I'm not inclined often to believe a lot of what ex's say, when I saw interviews of her ex-husband, I spidey sense felt he was truthful and sincere. That's a rare occurrence for me to feel that way.

    As far as friends/family nearby, she had visited some family (cousin I believe) in Crete, IL over Thanksgiving. She had told some coworkers that she was going there "that weekend" (she disappeared on Thursday night and was scheduled to work Friday). Law enforcement hasn't indicated if they knew she planned to come that weekend and if so when she was planning on coming. There's some rumors of some on again/off again boyfriend that she had at some point and I'm not sure of his location. I think someone speculated he was in IN, but I am not sure that that information is accurate. She grew up in NY, went to undergrad in AL, and went to med school in CA. She has a lot of friends strewn about the country between school, family, and her religion, so I think it's safe to say she'd quite possibly have someone in the vicinity that would help her if they thought she was in danger, but with her secret life that so many people didn't know about, there's a high probability that there's people that her family/friends aren't aware of that she knows too.

    It's a very complicated case and not your usual sequence of events for a missing person. There's the possibility that the bad tires that she had ignored disrupted whatever her plan was initially wherever she was headed and that since she thought she was being followed that she booked it away from any police (or hid) and help from others. She could be within several hundred yards of the accident site and been victim to mother nature. With the dog track being a week later...who knows?

    I really hope someone on here by some miracle remembers seeing the wreck, someone nearby, hearing something...just some kind of new information. It's hard to believe someone didn't with that section of road being so busy. I've traveled it probably hundreds of time in my life (I'm from Michigan).
     
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  3. basschica

    basschica Bobtail Member

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    No better way to hide it than to know what people look for in diagnosing it right? Or if you're grandiose you think you can be the exception or outdo it because you're more in control than someone else. Her ex husband mentioned her favorite movie was "A Beautiful Mind." That's interesting in itself to say the least.
     
  4. KW Cajun

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    Your theories do run along the same lines as what's passed thru my mind. I see a lot of similarities in the way we process info.
    I'm a former LEO, tho it's been many years back. Nearly all of my "away from scene" felony apprehensions were located strictly by way of totally blanking out my own personal/life's thought processes and completely, and I mean completely, taking on the thought processes of the person we were in pursuit of. However, as I stated before, in this case dealing with someone who was/is "all over the board" as far as rationality and thought processes, it makes that proven method totally and completely useless.

    It would be very rare that a forensic exam of the flat tire would not clearly show 1.) if it occurred prior to her running off road, and thus the reason for the "driving erratic" report just prior to her off-road ditching it, and 2.) if tire damage occurred solely due to her (unexplained) off-road path and resulting ditching. In any case, this would involve more than just a simple water tank test. It is interesting about the car repair shop's report about the bad condition of her tire(s).

    I'm not sure if that large retention pond (for lack of a better word) was frozen over or not on Dec 5th, but it was extremely close to where she ditched her vehicle. That would also be an area of special interest.

    I agree on the "complicated case". At this point, it certainly is!
     
  5. basschica

    basschica Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, I think the thing I figured/wondered on the tire was ... if for some reason it didn't leak in the water tank, then it would rule out a valve stem or any "hole" in it, to indicate it was actually let out of the tire intentionally to stage the scene if it were orchestrated. Given the repair shop that had worked on her car said her tires were in immediate need of replacing, it could just be an indication that she suffered a flat on her way to somewhere else, but that makes the disappearing so quickly not make sense again. Then again, the friend may have been following her to put the car somewhere else and then it got flat on the way and that required immediate abandoning of the vehicle. Also since she was in a frantic state of mind and the mm23 is right next to the exit sign for 22, maybe she over compensated (too soon) for the exit and drove off the road because she was overall not driving with sound mind. Ahhh so many questions!

    On Dec 5th the weather was really mild (for the midwest) with temps above freezing consistently quite a bit before that, so if anything maybe a thin thin layer of ice in patchy areas, but not at all frozen over in the man made pond thing there. There's a search and rescue group that did a search at the end of December including the culverts and pond (as best they could obviously for the pond) and nothing was found for them. I think they plan on doing some future searches, but we've been hit in the midwest with so much snow (where I am in Michigan we've had over 73" and counting and at this point last year we had only seen about 19" at this time for the winter), so it's going to take a good thaw to allow for a thorough ground search again.

    If you get sucked into being enough interested, the online group I've been searching for clues with is on websleuths.com They have people that are just average people along with people of various expertise professionally that provide insight too (s&r, trackers that use dogs, PI's, lawyers, mental health professionals, etc.). They keep it well moderated to avoid some of the drama I've seen on a LOT of other forums and it allows people to actually accomplish something without flame wars. Most all of the social media and other online presence leads have come from this group. I had never been on there until I got interested in this case, but have found it pretty cool. I was talking about it with my sister and she indicated she had participated on there with a case she was interested in a few years ago and that she liked it for the same reasons. There's been some questions relating to the highways/truckers etc. within the forums along the way, so I'm sure any of the people here that wanted to come over and provide insight would find themselves thoroughly welcomed. I'll forewarn you that it will suck up a lot of your time because you really get interested in all the information and then that leads you to looking for new clues. We've all been stumped by the clues she had given to an additional Twitter account, which has not been found. That puzzle has been driving us all to the brink of insanity ourselves haha! Being a former LEO you could clarify things that people ask about that too. I was able to do some since I participated in a "citizen police academy" that my local PD offers to help with their community policing and just general community outreach. It was a great program and I absolutely loved it.
     
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