I'm traveling with my wife, who is part of my business, but NOT a CDL Driver in our Minivan to Tennesee from Minnesota to pick up our new Peterbilt. Here's the question:
Driving down, I would assume that I have to Log my driving time as " Driving" even though I'm in a Minivan........ Right ?? I'm doing business stuff by traveling to get a truck, right ??
OK, here's another one to throw at ya...
When she's driving, if the above is true, how would I log my time then ?? Also, because she's part of the company, would she Log her time as well ?? Would it be easier just to have her drive the entire way down ?? Very curious how this one would work, and I know you experts will have the right answers for us
Thanks !!!
Very Starange Log Book question for you experts.......
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by jh23job, Sep 5, 2007.
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R u paying yourself to drive their their in lies the question.
Dont log it no one would u can say your wife drove the whole way and shell say she did right.
395.1(j) also (2) if you have a ten or 8 hour offduty break after arrival at your destination you dont have to log it as on duty -
I'm, or we, are not getting paid to do this, but the only thing we might do is claim the mileage on taxes. That's about it.
If I don't log it, my log book will show off duty last Friday in Minneapolis, and back on duty this Thursday in Nashville. Is that something to be concerned about ?? -
just write 395.1(j) on your logs i did it like that when i was at roehl delivering trucks to wi and flying back to ga they didnt have a problem with it. and i was paid to fly catch is the 10 hour offduty period after arrival.
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Just looked up that regulation, and that should work great. Thanks !!
It seems that it doesn't even matter if she drives straight through ( 14hours ), just as long as I don't drive, and when I get to Nashville, I take the 10 hours off before heading out. Awesome !!
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No prob;lem learn somthin everyday today i learned i am hungry and thirsty c i learn too.
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The FMCSR logging requirements only applies to drivers who are operating a Commercial Motor Vehicle (see defination in the regs). Therefore, you do not have to log your time as "Driving". However, you may have to log your time as "On-Duty Not Driving" but given your explaination above, I seriously doubt it.
As far as your wife is concerned....the only situation that your wife MAY have to log her time is if she operates a CMV and has a CDL. Otherwise, the FMCSRs would not apply to her. -
Pay does not always justify if you log something.
Anytime you fly, drive a 4 wheeler vehicle, sit in a van etc. it is on-duty not driving UNLESS BEFORE getting in a commercial motor vehicle you take a full 10 hour consecutive break.
If you fly for 2 hours and can hop in the truck immediately it's worth logging the line 4 to get on the road sooner.
If you are in a vehicle for a 20 hour trip, the you REALLY NEED a 10 hour break @ least.
Just wanted to make sure these replies was clear. I noticed someone did give you the correct advice, wanted to back them up. -
I personally would not log any time until I left the dealership with the tractor. I would assume that considerable time remains to be spent finalizing the purchase or lease of this vehicle. Additionally, I'd expect considerable time will be spent by you and your wife during the delivery, inspection, familiarization and acceptance processes. Allowing 15-30 minutes prior to leaving the dealership for a pre-trip inspection would likely cover you as far as logging requirements go.
As a practical matter, it stands to reason that given the financial commitment you are making that you wouldn't risk harm to self and tractor by operating while fatigued. Congratulations and best wishes.
I believe the scenario you present is similar to one I encounter every other week. I drive 7 on/7 off for Roehl. I live 2.5 hours from the terminal where I commence and end my work week. My 14 and 70 hour clocks start when I begin my Pre TI, not when I leave home. And, I end my work week with the 15 minute Post TI, not 2.5 hours later when I arrive at my home. For what its worth, it is my responsibility to ensure that I'm well rested when reporting for my launch load. Within the last 6 months, I have only once chosen not to drive home at week's end. I was dog tired, and took another night's sleep in the tractor. Among the safe 7 at Roehl is, 'prepare to drive'. If you are tired, you aren't prepared to drive. -
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