Very Starange Log Book question for you experts.......

Here's the thing...Bob's business operates in a 100mile radius of his terminal...so he doesn't keep logs. As long as he's been running this business, he's never had to keep logs or cross any scales while driving...so he's a little usure of the procedures. Not to mention he wants to make it back from SF in the timeliest manner possible. But if you HAVE to stop in CA then i guess you have to stop. As far as the insurance goes...there's a catch to that...it will be insured under his name first. Personal.

Bob goes to CA and buys a truck; drives it back to AZ and sells it to a business.....HIS business

that's the plan anyway.

any more insight?

 

Same thing I said. Now the exemption for under 100 mile rule is void. Interstate commerce rules going over state lines.

To be 100%, call the state of California and Arizona and ask them. Get them to put it in writing to carry with you.

The local officer or state officer is where your concern will be. They are the law and California tickets can range up to 3,000 dollars.

 

yuck. i guess i'll have to get on the horn before my father goes out there.

 

This is a very interesting question & group of circumstances.
I'm inclined to agree with RoadMedic.

I think, a FMSCA investigator would argue that Bob's travel was actually Interstate Commerce because the load being moved is the tractor itself despite the end use of that tractor is in Non-Interstate Commerce.

Up to the point that Bob actually lists the new truck as a business asset, or begins to write the trip off as a business expense, he could say the truck is for personal use; i.e. to pull a travel trailer etc.

A personal use tractor/trailer does not come under the FMCSA rules so nothing need be done as far as logs etc.

You'd need to be fairly convincing to say it's for personal use.

Since this entire adventure is likely to be looked upon as INterstate Commerce, it falls under the rules & you'd need to keep a log.

Plus, I'm sure that Cali & other states want to see that tractor on the scales (or at least the empty bypass) even if it's just to stop you to see the logs.

I'm also sure they might want to pull it into the bay for a check-up to see if it's road worthy (if not trailered).

 

That's an interesting point.
I don't know if thats true or not.
I've never heard of that but it doesn't mean its not true.
I wonder if thats a DOT thing or state?
In the not-too-distant future I'll look that up.

Let me add that you can legally use a twinscrew tractor as personal conveyance.
Since I haven't created a "rv" type tractor before, I've never had the reason to check into it.

Thanks for the food for thought.

 

Thanks all for the advice...it's been a while, and after getting out there, the truck was a heap...so all that worry and all the phone calls were for naught. We did end up getting a different truck though, and had it delivered...saved us the trouble. Thanks again.

 

If d.o.t. says anything to you about your transit time, tell them"scottie beamed me there andrefer the question to captian kirk!"

 

Good one, but being a smart ellic might get them in a little more trouble