Veteran Truckers, Heres some questions from a Newbie about HOS

Father was a truck driver before I was born.

Started driving farm truck in 1965 when I was tall enough to reach the clutch.

Started driving army trucks in 1975 at age 18.

Got my CDL in 3/1984.

Last chargeable accident 2/86.

Last accident 6/98.

Last ticket 5/04.

3 million safe miles. Almost 2 million miles without a ticket.

And YOU are going to tell ME something, right?

RIGHT? lol.

Interesting side note. Enlisted Oct 74. After basic training at Ft Lenard Wood, medic training at Ft Sam Houston, airborne and ranger school at Ft Benning the first thing I did as a fully qualified airborne ranger medic was change the front tire on a 2 1/2 ton truck...

 

Who told you that you had to do something? Like I said most questions about regs ignore the question and are answered by what someone gets away with.

 

You have more accidents & tickets than me. So you are the expert. I have 3 million miles with no accidents and no speeding tickets.

 

No TICKETS. Not talking about speeding tickets. No defective equipment, no warnings, nothing. Since you are specifying "speeding" I have no other choice than to presume that you DO have other type, like LOGBOOK violations for example. I dont... And never have. And since YOU presume that you are an EXPERT on what cops will question you on, again, one PRESUMES that you know what you are talking about because YOU HAVE TICKETS for that. Again, I dont and never have. You chugging along in your governed Swift truck, of course you dont have any speeding tickets... And yes, since I was a CDL instructor for 3 years and taught this stuff, I AM an expert.

So go lay by your dish... I have almost 4 million safe miles. And almost 4 million since my last speeding ticket (which I wasnt guilty of) back in 86 sometime. The accident i had in 98 a woman ran into me. 2 state troopers saw it happen. The one chargable I had I got caught in Wy in a blizzard and couldnt find a safe place to get off the road and the wind grabbed the tractor and jack knifed it as I was going down the road. Not really a hell of a lot I could do about that, but they ruled it chargable because "I shouldnt have been out there in a blizzard". Whatever... The ticket I got in 04 was because I entered an intersection on a yellow light. It was on US30 in Indiana about 2am with no one around. The cops had just installed a camera to watch the intersection and were playing around with it. Since I didnt exit the intersection before the red they ticketed me for it. Didnt see a need to jump on the brakes for a yellow light in the middle of the night with no one around. Still dont and would do it again right now without a thought.

BTW (not for you, but for the rookies that read this because you are an expert), NEVER answer a question from a cop. Nothing good can come from it. Nothing in the law says you have to help them get you in trouble (its called the 5th amendment). Where are you going? Where are you coming from? Do you know how fast you were going? Why are you on this road and not the interstate? ect so on and so forth. "I dont believe the law requires me to answer that question officer, sorry".

 

You claimed the following.

Last chargeable accident 2/86.

Last accident 6/98.

Last ticket 5/04.

 

Lol, yeah, I did. So whats your point?

Chargeable accidents are those you can avoid (since you dont seem to know what the term means). 2/86 - which is what I said when I said:
The one chargable I had I got caught in Wy in a blizzard and couldnt find a safe place to get off the road and the wind grabbed the tractor and jack knifed it as I was going down the road. Not really a hell of a lot I could do about that, but they ruled it chargeable because "I shouldnt have been out there in a blizzard".
A accident you can not avoid (ie non-chargeable) is, ummmm, unavoidable... You somehow think that makes you more knowledgeable because no one has run into you?

You also said: and no speeding tickets.
I have never had a speeding ticket I deserved. I got 5 in Wisconsin between 1984 and 1986 - and frankly if I ever am diagnosed with terminal cancer I have a very special plan for a Wisconsin chicken house to make up for the money they have stolen from me, but thats between me and God
You didnt drive in the "Smokey and the Bandit" days when cops would tag anyone for anything and there was nothing you could do about it. Thank God for dash cams.

So what HAVE you gotten tickets for? You seem to avoid that.

The whole point of this thread is LOGS. And I have never had a log violation (which is what I said). Ever. I PRESUME YOU have. And you havent denied it.

So I guess your post is completely meaningless, since you dont seem to have a point. Right?

You also said: I've never gotten a speeding ticket in 28 years. I have 3 million miles

the accepted norm is 1 year=100,000 miles. I have never met anyone that actually keeps track of how many miles they have actually driven. Before.

 

You sound real stable. In one reply you described your tickets and accidents and claimed I was describing myself as Expert. You are the only one of the two of us throwing around the word expert. In your next reply you denied you had accidents. I posted your exact words where you told me what the dates of your accidents were. I've never had a logbook/HOS ticket or violation, no speeding or moving violations, etc. I did get a couple of inspection violations (ABS light inop), including one air-leak OOS until repair. In one reply you declare how many miles you've driven and when I tell you what mine are and they match yours your next reply is to act amused ANYONE is keeping track of their miles. Maybe the typing half of you and the reading half of you should make friends with each other. Congratulations getting to your age without noticing there are people with their own advice to give. I've learned what things I know by doing, reading, and watching/talking with other people. I've never felt anyone of those things is a threat to me, apparently you are enraged those thing. I learn BECAUSE I know I don't already know something. So I go learn it. I look for the people doing that something and watch them and then learn their rules-of-thumb and their thought process. Maye I should spend my days brooding about destroying a scale house, you know, like an expert.