Wait til you hear this......

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by trucky909, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. trucky909

    trucky909 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for your feedback guys.....if I have to start all over (3 weeks on the road training) I may just call it a wrap with the trucking. I'm not going through this crap again. I know that shouldn't be the approach to this, but there's no freaking way I failed that test. It's almost equivalent to me doing 45 mph......cop pulls me over, says I was doing 60 mph, then gives me a ticket. I don't know.....I'm black...could race be an issue here??? And don't you guys start with the "oh here we go" lol.....i have no idea here. I mean, I passed the road test at school 3rd time ever touching a truck.

    Again.....i was only driving 35mph making a few right and left turns on this test with no issues. It was 10-15 min tops. It was a piece of cake. I would be completely honest with you all if I had even minor issues like: you know what, I came to a complete stop over the white line once, or.....my gears were getting stuck a few times......none of that happened.....the test was simple.
     
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  3. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Ask for the reason. If they tell you we wont tell you ask again, hell tell them your concidering legal action as your trainer said you passed. Get a statment from the guy who passed you. Is it possible it was a mixup? Wrong driver number exc..
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    I read this all again and still think there is something missing that we are not being told about. for many of us, Phase 1 training is meaningless and so is a lot of other intra-company terms.

    I will reiterate what I posted - the red statements are the important ones.

    OK maybe I am confused with the excitement of the weekend starting here. BUT there are a couple things that don't seem right and the OP can explain them.

    I assume they trained you for your CDL and you got it. YOU did the obligatory stint with a "trainer" for a couple months and returned to get your own truck. Right?

    If so you got your CDL (I wish people would stop using the term "Hard Copy" because either you have it or not - the company can not legally hold it, posses it for any reason or have a lean on it) and wanted to start working for them, Right?

    IF so you got screwed because they just didn't like you. Maybe not that you have enemies but maybe you actually did something wrong on the road and they won't tell you or you won't say. it seems you assumed that you did a perfect road test but you are not the judge of it, someone else is and they also judge you on your driving while "training" so it could be a lot of things.

    So let's recap, you signed a contract saying that you will work for them to pay off your obligation but there is no guarantee of a job once that training is done (read the contract). YOU got a CDL and that's it.

    YOU did a post "training" company road test after you got your CDL but didn't get the job.

    You are on the hook for the training if that's all correct.

    I wouldn't worry about your DAC, they can't say much on that and if they do, dispute it. I wouldn't worry about getting another job, you have some time between the dac report update and starting the job.

    BUT you are obligated to pay them, and as you mentioned your residency is different than your mailing address which will be an issue if/when they bring you to court.

    Remember these companies are not under any obligation to do or say a word about why you failed, there is no laws governing employment there and all states have at will employment. The problem I see is with people who think they are owed something for the work they do, many act as if they are the important ones but these companies make their own rules and will fire people for no reason.

    SO the OP should read what I said and clarify.

    No one holds your CDL hostage, that's a childish assumption.

    YOU have YOUR CDL and you can get another job with it.

    The problem is that YOU assume that there was an obligation of employment attached with the training where there isn't. Get a lawyer, any lawyer will tell you the same thing - you have no case.

    What's unjustified is the idea that people come into this industry with no clue, act as if they deserve to get free training and when they fail don't want to pay for the cost of training - it still costs money to put you in a class room and educate you no matter if you succeed or fail.

    Its not a scam, you are told what you need to do - pass the training, fulfill the obligations you need to fulfill and then you are free of that obligation. No one promises a job with the training, if they do then they are plain stupid.

    By the way, just to add something, the cost or recouping the training costs far exceeds the cost of employing the person in the first place. These training parts of these companies do run at a loss because out of say 10 people 2 may be employed at that company, the other 8 leave or wash out. So the cost of funding those 8 adds up, it is on the books as a debt until that debt is paid.

    So scam?

    Nope I think there is too much money lost to be a scam.


    I think it was something he did to make him unemployable there. It may be something in his background check or something else in his past but the company has no obligation to tell him what it is. It is all speculation on his part what it was.
     
    SLANT6 Thanks this.
  5. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    I redact my previous statment. Re read the op and i admit i read to fast to make a real comment. There is way to much missing info here.
     
  6. Big Don

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    Hell Trucky, ANYTHING is possible. There is no way we can judge this, because we were not there. And only getting one side of the story, (even if I happen to be the one telling the story,) only shows one point of view. Just don't know what to tell you.

    Only YOU can decide if you want to drive badly enough to do what it takes to make it happen. And it sort of looks like you don't want it that bad, so perhaps you might be better off doing something else.

    Good luck to you, no matter what you decide to do.
     
  7. trucky909

    trucky909 Light Load Member

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    Ok....here's an update. My friend is an o/o and he's said I could be 2nd seat.....we're leaving tomorrow morning. He said he'll give me .32 per mile. What are the pros and cons of this regarding my situation? I know there has to be paperwork involved thar he will need.

    Thanks
     
  8. trucky909

    trucky909 Light Load Member

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    Forgot to mention....my friend drives all 48
     
  9. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    Maybe you shot your mouth off as you did in your original post "Retarded Easy". That usually hits a nerve with people. Especially ones with a handicapped family member. You did or said something to get you booted out the door. They need drivers, why pick you? Hmm?
     
  10. SLANT6

    SLANT6 Road Train Member

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    Well said. Every new potential driver should read this
     
  11. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Can you provide a link to this post which allegedly contained the words "retarded easy"?
     
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