Want to put a Wet Kit on your DT-12 under Warranty?

IH9300SBA · Nov 12, 2023

KDHCryo said: ↑

Update...

Going to pick up the truck tomorrow. I cannot blame Excel Truck Group for parts delays. They waited almost a week and a half for parts to get shipped in from various Detroit and Freightliner dealers around the country. Something like 30 different parts had to be ordered.

Yes, as mentioned above my DT-12 was not originally built with a pto prep kit. There are some cheaper ways to install a pto, however it would interfere with the Detroit warranty, which I did not want to do. Also, I did not like the idea of a bottom mounted pto option, like Belzares offers. Too low to the ground. If I had a 13 spd Eaton it would be a different story.

Good news is, the final bill, parts, labor, ended up totaling $5,687.13. To me that seems reasonable. I believe the initial estimate was inflated because they did not know what the mechanics were going to run into when they opened the transmission, or simply because no mechanic had ever converted one before.

Anyways, transmission is split, new output shaft added, warranty intact for another 125K miles, here's to hoping every time I hit that dash switch it works.
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I'd call that a win in my book considering I initial quote. Hopefully it works out well for you.

Tyronedee55 · Dec 11, 2023

KDHCryo said: ↑

Update...

Going to pick up the truck tomorrow. I cannot blame Excel Truck Group for parts delays. They waited almost a week and a half for parts to get shipped in from various Detroit and Freightliner dealers around the country. Something like 30 different parts had to be ordered.

Yes, as mentioned above my DT-12 was not originally built with a pto prep kit. There are some cheaper ways to install a pto, however it would interfere with the Detroit warranty, which I did not want to do. Also, I did not like the idea of a bottom mounted pto option, like Belzares offers. Too low to the ground. If I had a 13 spd Eaton it would be a different story.

Good news is, the final bill, parts, labor, ended up totaling $5,687.13. To me that seems reasonable. I believe the initial estimate was inflated because they did not know what the mechanics were going to run into when they opened the transmission, or simply because no mechanic had ever converted one before.

Anyways, transmission is split, new output shaft added, warranty intact for another 125K miles, here's to hoping every time I hit that dash switch it works.
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Do you have all the information? Im trying to put a wet kit on my 2019 cascadia bought from excel also down in SC
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KDHCryo · Dec 11, 2023

Tyronedee55 said: ↑

Do you have all the information? Im trying to put a wet kit on my 2019 cascadia bought from excel also down in SC
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Here' my invoice...the DTNA parts you need are listed on the left. That'll give the dealership a start.

Tyronedee55 · Dec 11, 2023

KDHCryo said: ↑

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Here' my invoice...the DTNA parts you need are listed on the left. That'll give the dealership a start.
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I appreciate your help so after they installed that whats next?

KDHCryo · Dec 11, 2023

Tyronedee55 said: ↑

I appreciate your help so after they installed that whats next?
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In my case a hydraulic 60gpm pump mounted to the transmission, that feeds an air compressor or a blackmer liquid pump. Your application depends on what you need the pto to do.

uncleal13 · Dec 11, 2023

My 2016 already had the PTO prep kit installed from the factory. It included slightly different location of the air tanks so there was a clear line of sight from the PTO mounting point to the rear.
My local dealer spec'd all O/O trucks this way as at the time it was the only way to defeat the anti idle regulations.
It allowed me to just flip the PTO switch on the dash and the engine would rev up to 1,000 rpm even though I didn't have an actual PTO.

Tyronedee55 · Dec 12, 2023

Thanks for the help and info. I will be going to the dealership soon.

a1275913 · Dec 14, 2023

We've got a 2020 Cascadia needing a wet kit that was not PTO prepped by the manufacturer. The PTO has been installed but we have major clearance issues with the flange at the output of the aftertreatment box. Do you have any pictures of your setup?

KDHCryo · Dec 15, 2023

a1275913 said: ↑

We've got a 2020 Cascadia needing a wet kit that was not PTO prepped by the manufacturer. The PTO has been installed but we have major clearance issues with the flange at the output of the aftertreatment box. Do you have any pictures of your setup?
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Yeah, that sounds like a PTO to a hard mount driveshaft issue. Meaning you have a driveshaft hard mounted from the fixed transmission output, through a frame mounted carrier bearing to an output pump. Not ideal.

You need a setup like mine where the pump is hard mounted to the PTO output, then hydraulic hoses to the end hydraulic output, if that makes sense.

It's a lot easier to route hydraulic power in a flexible hose than through a driveshaft. It costs more on the front end, but maintenance wise on the back end it saves a ton of money.

Gimme a couple minutes I'll upload my setup....

Tyronedee55 · Dec 15, 2023

Yes please send pictures

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