Wanting my own truck???

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by blue T, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. blue T

    blue T Light Load Member

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    I came across this site and thought I would ask some of you what you think of my desire to buy my own truck. I am a company driver who drives daycab, pulling doubles out of local coal mines. I am home every night. I have been doing this for almost ten years. Our company has been hiring leasers lately and I am considering buying a used truck and leasing on to my company. It appears that they are making triple the money I am doing the same work. I know the costs are far higher than what I have but I have checked the rates against truck payments, insurance and maintanence costs, and it appears that i can make some decent money. They are paying 80% of the haul pulling their trailers. Was considering a truck with a flat top sleeper that way I can go over the road when times are slow here. Thanks.
     
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  3. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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    Hi Blue T, what are you needing to know?
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah, as you said, "It appears they are making $$$$$$$". Investigate further, look at some settlements, get ALL the facts.
     
  5. blue T

    blue T Light Load Member

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    Well i quess i am asking if It is worth the expense to really be your own boss?

    Just wanted to throw some numbers at you guys. I have done some research and this is what I have.

    Permits-$675
    Insurance-$750 Month based on approx. $9000 year. ( includes cargo, bobtail, liability)
    Truck Payment-$750-$1000 month (looking at a 2005 volvo daycab around $800 month)
    Medical Insurance-$650 month

    Company is looking to pay 80% of linehaul pulling their Trailers. They will maintain trailers.
    $2.42 a ton, average load is 43 ton= $104.06 per load- 20%=$83.24 to the truck per load. Load is based on the short run of 1.12 hours ($83.24 x 1.12 = $93.23 per load)
    So I average 10 loads a day, but we will base my figures on 9 loads a day. (9 x 1.12 = 10.12 hours) (10.12 X $83.24 = $842.38 Day)

    So I figure 5 days a week ($842.38 x 5 = $4211.94)
    Month- $16847.77

    Fuel would be an average of 100 gal per shift at 2.80 gal = $280 day,$1400 week.
    Month-$5600

    I would put 10% or .10 mile per week in a reserve account for repairs and maint. ($421.94 week, $1684.77 month) is this to much? only run about 350 -400 miles a day.


    $16847.77-gross revenue
    $5600 -fuel
    $1684 -reserve acct.
    $2256.25 -Truck ins, payment, medical, permits
    $7307.52 -net

    This is just me driving the truck for 12 hours a day one shift. If I add a driver for second shift you double the figures and minus the wages.

    $33695.54-gross month
    $11200.00-fuel
    $3368.00 -reserve
    $2256.25 -Truck pay, ect.
    $3542.00 -wages (17.50 hr x 10.12 hrs day = 202.4 hrs month)
    $13329.29- net per month

    I want to start out with 5000 in the bank first along with a months salary before starting out also. right now I average between 160 to 200 dollars a day, about 3500 month working 6 days on 2 off. I just would like to know if my numbers are realistic. I know we can not predict the future and there will be low times. We see about three a year and they last a week to two at a time. The extra money left over after I pay all the bills at the company and home I want to put away for those rainy days.

    Just wanted to throw this out to you experienced owner operators to see if this looks like it might work for me? Thanks
     
  6. mastllc

    mastllc Medium Load Member

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    are you sure you want to get a volvo to haul coal with. i hear the coal mines can be a rough environment on a truck.
     
  7. blue T

    blue T Light Load Member

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    It is harder on a truck than running longhaul but its all on pavement. The wear and tear comes on the tires and transmission, due to the grade of the road in the mountains and the weight of the load. Double belly dumps with a total weight of 128,000. looking for a truck with a small sleeper to due this in case i have to go long haul during slow periods. I am looking for some of you to comment on my figures, do they look like it could work?
     
  8. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Looking at your figures, it looks like it could work. You are even taking into consideration slow times. BUT, sometimes on paper and actually doing it are 2 different things. I would adjust your figures down 10%, to allow for breakdowns, yours or the coal companys.
     
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  9. beancounter

    beancounter Light Load Member

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    Not sure about the figures, just adding something you may have over-looked.

    1. From a business perspective, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to form an LLC for your truck(s). It limits your personal liability in case, God forbid, someone files a suit against you for something that happens to them while you're driving (ie: accident causing injury). They're not that expensive to form, and it could save you a ton.

    2. How will you pay yourself and your potential future drivers? If you only have the one truck, taking a draw out of your bank won't be a big deal, just make sure you keep a good chunk of cash in the bank for taxes at the end of the year. However, if you buy more trucks in the future, and hire new drivers to put in them, legally, you need to pay them with payroll checks. This will cause you to pay even more taxes (yippee). Don't forget to add those into your figures. (FICA Employer match = 7.65% of gross P/R, Fed Unemployment = 8% of the first $7000 per employee, State unemployment, varies by state. Check your state unemployment rates.)

    Hope this helps you, feel free to ask more questions. I'm no expert, but I'll do my best.
     
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  10. Christank

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    Don't do it....you can go broke in this industry real fast. Pay for this pay for that,it is a constant thing. And if you have to pay for your own maintenance and tires it can be expensive.
     
  11. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    I say GO FOR IT! 10 years with the co? you know all the in's & out's. talk to the other lease drivers. most people go blind into leasing to a co. you are already there. now if you were inquiring into going with a co, that you new nothing about, there would be a greater risk. if you get along good with the dispatcher, you may do real well.
     
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