Warning and OOS, should I change jobs?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by marwan30, Aug 5, 2023.

  1. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    this is true, us older guys were "brow-beaten" and not in private, but in front of an audience, weren't we..???

    same can be said for a D.I. in the military, they would "brow-beat" new recruits into shape,

    but then cry babies made it so that the DI's have to be kinder and gentler to the raw recruits..

    would the enemy be as kind and gentler when the recruit is captured?

    i think not, business as usual for the enemy to torture a captured soldier. (oh please Mr. Enemy, go gentler on me, my D.I. said it's not nice to be a big ole meanie"....)

    same holds true of all the tv show's we grew up with, like Archie Bunker...none of that stuff would "fly today", in this overly sensitive world.

    instead of a world of tough standing people, the country as a whole has become as soft as cotton balls.

    oh well............
     
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  3. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    The pinacle of soft as cotton balls [my aplolgies to any younger drivers who may like to wear one!]..... M A N B U N S ! ! !
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If you had a kid in the 8th grade who was trying to understand a subject, but just couldn’t get it, what would you as a teacher do? You ask him why he failed to learn this subject in the 7th grade, and instead of throwing his 7th grade teacher under the bus, or talk about how lousy the school system is in America, the kid takes full responsibility. What would you do next? Continue to browbeat the student or would you simplify things so that the student will easily grasp the lesson?
     
  5. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    listening to all this chatter about "older guys" makes me wonder if at 69 11/12ths if I'm one the young'uns. lol :D
     
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    Of course not. History has shown, my grandparents "whollop them a good one" had lasting consequences, became less with my parents, and almost non-existent with me. I saw a restored 1920ish school house, with a no window "time out" hut, basically, solitary confinement. It's no wonder our parents had problems. What I have a problem with, is having to "learn" how to drive a truck in the 1st place. We were natural born leever pullers, and all we had to learn was learn the pay procedure. If it was my school, 90% of the applicants wouldn't turn a wheel. The ones that stayed, would have to pass a slippery road test and a mock "pile up", just so they know what can happen, rather than "on the job" training. We, as a country are paying dearly for these drivers today. People like me and Buddy don't have an answer. The world is so bakocked compared to our time, we couldn't possibly put in the time we did and our opinions bolster that fact. I wouldn't think of trucking today as a job, and I'm not alone.
     
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  7. buddyd157

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    that's hysterical....:D
     
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  8. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    i think "throwing people under the bus", is acceptable or has been for at least the last 2 decades now...

    any co-worker is willing to throw you under the bus at any given time, to make himself look good to the boss(es).
     
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  9. buddyd157

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    it's the old, "get'em in, get'em out" mantra of the CDL Mills, trucking company training, and whatever else, to fill the seats.

    there is NO training, not even at the community colleges level, what a bunch of horse pucky...

    it's ALL DOLLARS driven....nothing else.

    and i do not recommend trucking either......it's not an industry for someone that is "soft", and gets butt hurt too easily.

    if many of the newbies had to stay out for a month or 2 (or longer) like we did, cuz it's the way the freight moves and the companies make money, they'd be finding the first airport to get home.
     
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  10. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I understand what you’re saying. Thing is, his 7th grade teacher failed him. He passed to the 8th grade without learning the 7th grade curriculum. If the kid is putting forth effort, don’t browbeat him because his teachers failed him.

    Had a driver pulling an OSOW load that got caught out on the road in the northeast during a Labor Day curfew. Big fines. Driver shies away from OSOW.

    Well a month later, we got stuck on the site overnight and the security guard drove 4 of us to a Pizza Hut. I told everyone to bring their OSOW permits and provision sheets. Ordered a pitcher of beer (they all looked at me odd and wondered if it were okay…poor beaten and afraid children), and went through the permits and all the provisions. None of them were ever taught how. The company gives out provisions, but until I showed them how to trip plan an OSOW, they actually had no idea. Happens all the time in trucking.

    We, you and I, cannot beat on a kid that’s trying. We can’t tell them of how the world was in the past. It’s the wrong thing to do. It’s why young hands won’t engage with old hands. If you want to help, help. But if the student is diligent and fails to grasp the lesson, it is the teacher that fails.
     
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  11. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    The right to air your opinion isnt in question.

    Opinions and organic waste material orifices... everyones got one, and they all stink

    Long fld was pointing out that just because you CAN share, doesnt mean you SHOULD. Are you making the world any better by crapping on everyone who disagrees with you? Or just running your mouth?
     
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