Well, to say the least, this has been an informative discussion.
I have dropped the appeals process, since enough drivers have made statements in support of California EDD's logic to justify to me how EDD reached their conclusions that the principle of constructive termination does not apply to commercial truck drivers. Whether you do as an employer says or not, legal or not, safe or not, or remain with them or not, you are strictly on your own, with no recourse whatsoever.
I started this thread to inform drivers of what I thought was an absurd logic behind an even more absurd decision, one that makes it seem like every driver out there is as amoral as a cat in heat. I didn't believe that for one instant, and still don't.
But, after reading some of the posts in this thread, I'm convinced now more than ever that enough are to justify every ridiculous regulation that exists now, and that is coming in the immediate future. There are just too many drivers out there willing to do whatever it takes, to hell with everyone else, to make a quick buck. Some, as I've read, would stick it to those closest to them to achieve that goal.
It is those drivers which creates the public and official view that we are just a bunch of outlaw hoodlums. Morality? Principles? Basic common decency? Not unless there's a profit in it!
No wonder this industry is so fracked up! We work in one of the most heavily regulated "deregulated" industries in the country, with the majority of the regulatory weight falling not on companies, but on individual drivers.
After reading some of the posts, I now understand why.
Thanks to those drivers who offered support or constructive advice. This rant isn't meant for you, but I think we all know who it applies to, eh?
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Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by CA_Medicine_Woman, Aug 23, 2010.
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I did not qualify for Unemployment. I asked nicely if there was something she could do or recommend. She processed my Original Claim and closed it. Then she openned my "Extension" and that was that.
I do not know why, I do not care so much, but I did get the extension until I got to work again.
This isn't an issue of who is right or whatever this is a situation where I needed some money coming in to help until I work again.
You may want to try this type of thing. I cannot guarantee anything. But it's worth asking about. -
Really?
Because based on YOUR following statements,, You learned NOTHING from it and are still trying to blame anyone and everyone but yourself for your bad decision making.
The regulations that we have to live under exist because of drivers like yourself that just bend over and do whateve their dispatcher tells them to!
YOU VIOLATED YOUR HOS...Because YOU chose to!
Everyone here has laid it out to you that the reason that you had problems was based on you own poor decision making process.
YOU chose to have someone on the truck that shouldn't have been there!
YOU chose to violate YOUR hours of service rather than stand up for yourself and say NO!
YOU are the one that freaked out when most of us here didn't sympathize with you.
YOU are the one that claimed that by being a hard working, Law abiding, Responsible driver that WE are somehow being dishonorable and neglecting our families and that somehow YOU are being honorable by dragging a fragile family member with you and creating an environment whereby YOU must make a choice between a service failure or running illegaly...
You've put yourself so high on your own pedestal that there's no way down safely.
Read your own posts!
You are the one whining about having to violate your HOS...Most everyone else is saying YOU WERE WRONG!
I'm sure it applies to me....And I hope it does!
I'm tired of seeing people that have no business driving a truck, out here driving trucks!
I run legal....I REFUSE to not run legal!
You obviously don't have what it takes to tell a dispatcher NO!
That is YOUR fault!CivilWerks Thanks this. -
My employment with Marten transport was never enjoyable from the time I arrived for orientation to the time of my termination of employment.
I was given what seemed to be precise instruction on how to get to the hotel for my first night of stay before orientation was to begin the next day. First by bus, then by taxi. One simple step was left out about the fare for the taxi, but as it turned out, it worked out to my benefit.
During my employment, I have been swindled out of layover pay that was promised to be payed when i first asked if I was going to receive such pay for waiting two and a half days while sitting at the shipper for a load that I later found out was indeed ready to be loaded on to my trailer when I arrived on friday, but was put on another drivers trailer so he/she would be able to go home for the weekend. This inturned prevented me from having access to a shower, and needing to travel to and from resteraunts for food.
The main point of this subject is however, when asked for layover pay I was denied such with no reasonable answer. Detention pay was also denied. Access to someone higher on the todem pole, (such as my fleet managers superviser) was able to be contacted, as was promised to be always allowed and available, (during orientation classes)
I was fired just a few weeks later after having a professionally conducted telephone call with a fleet manager superviser about this and other subjects that we discussed.
I was not fired for the conversation or my conduct. I was told to take a drug and alcohol test a few weeks later while in New Jersey. While I was waiting at a shipper for a load that was scheduled to be picked up at 20:00 on a Monday after sitting in Massachussettes in nowhwere land all weekend. I was first told to contact the testing site by phone for directions and to find out if a semi truck would be allowed in the area. I was informed that semi trucks are not allowed there and that i would not make the destination before closing time due to the location being in the southern part of the state compared to me being in the most northern part of the state. I contacted the safety department at marten again to relay the information I received. I was the given a new location supposidely only seven miles away. When i asked how i was to get there, I was told to ask the shipper where I was at if i could leave my assigned truck and trailer there while i occomplish this task. If i was allowed to do this, then transportation would be provided for me by marten. I aknowledged that i understood, and would call back in just a few minutes to let safety know when i was ready, if allowed to leave the truck and trailer there at the shipper.I was allowed to do all of this, and tried to contact the safety perso I communicated with before. I was only able to leave a voice message, and never received a call back or transportation.
I eventually received a call from a different person in safety with only fifteen minutes remaining before the closeing of the testing site. I was asked if I had done the test. I replied that I was till waiting for the ride to get there that i was told I would receive according to the previous person I communicated with in the safety. This person however told me that marten does not supply transportation for such ques,t and that I am solely responsible for my own tranportation, and furthermore, refusal to complete the test is grounds for termination of employment.
I then clearly informed this second person that i did not refused to take the test, and in noway would i be able to fail such a test in any form, but no words from were wanted to be heard by the safety department on the subject.
It sure did seem odd to me when a wrecker showed up within ten minutes of me answering the phone to tow the truck away. Kind of seemed as a planned process of elimination of employee to me.
There are numerous other senarioes that I could tell you about how marten has invented to rid the company of employees that are in the higher pay bracket, and/or know how to spot company methods to nickel and dime money from the driver, who are also not afraid to get that hard earned money back.
Marten then proceeded to enter onto mt DAC report that i refused to take the test. This created a problem for me to get another job until i was able to get that removed. I was replaced with a statement saying that i did not followcompany policy. Always something to cover thier rear, without a thought about the damage done to the lives of others, permanent or temperary.
I even had to fight for un employment benefits due to this slander from marten. In the result, I was alllowed unemployment benefits, but two hundred dollars less every check then Ishould be entitled to. I have always been drug free my whole life. I have worked since I was nine years old. Thirteen of those years have been served in the Marine Corps where I a was costantly tested due to my level of security and qualifications needed for certain jobs.
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You have 29 years exprience in the industry and your still jumping through every hoop thats put in front of you. You also can't read between the lines "MOVE ON" find another job ie... cut your losses and change employers before they they have a chance to add any info on your DAC report.
It's bad enough with the attitude of new drivers coming into the industry.
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This thread should be renamed.......Marten Still Sucks.
No surprise there.....they DO suck........
Feeling sorry for yourself and trying to get the rest of us to follow suit is useless.
Pizz on Marten and move on.......learn from your mistakes.
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I had a smiler thing happen & first off I contacted the I.C.C. & filed a complaint for my working for this company was delivering state to state so that didn't come under home state. It is interstate work you were doing so you have to file with I.C.C. first than local U.i. office.
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You should have asked for an appeal court hearing in front of a municipal court judge.You also should have requested a commercial chp officer be present to clarify any laws the judge didn't understand. You would have won hands down.A lot of companys employ people in mgr. positions who really arn't qualified.All they want to do is look good at your expense !CHECK OUT THE RULES AND FINES FOR EXCEEDING the hours of service,PROTECT YOUR LICENSE AT ALL COST !!!
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