Was the trucker at fault?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by orangepicker, Aug 16, 2015.

  1. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    That isn't always the best plan of action. There's a truck stop around here that is a left turn with 2 turn lanes off the main road, then a quick left turn into the truck stop. I see mindless idiots in big trucks all of the time setting up for that left turn in the outside lane...just as you say...and then making their turn into the left lane (instead of the right lane, which would be the correct lane to turn into based upon their turn lane choice)...heaven help anyone who was in that left left turn lane, because they get forced into oncoming traffic by the jackwad who can't manage to a) select the proper lane for his turn and b) cannot manage to keep his truck in the proper lane while turning.
     
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    Was'nt being argumentive at all not even the tiniest bit just talking is all.Just saying the trk driver should have stayed in his lane rather then both lanes.The 4 wheeler had a good idea the trucker was going to turn too sharp so he was stopped while the trucker was making the turn but as he was coming up to the lite I doubt the 4wheeler knew otherwise he would have stayed far back.But none the less the trk driver turned his rig like a car and did not even look in his mirror.I'll give him credit though,when he hit that car he made sure to do a darn good job.Thank god the 4 wheeler didn't get hurt.
     
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    There should be some kinda low hanging bar kinda like the bumper on the back of a trailer. Something that would not allow a car to go under the trailer.
    Could of avoided all kinds of damage.
    Were the side skirts hang you could install a bar behind the wind apron. Im surprised the industry doesn't already do that.
    Wouldn't of prevented this accident. But could of prevented being totaled.
     
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    Europe has had them for ages. I have seen them installed on some fuel tankers for a few years. Boston now requires them on city and contracted trucks.
     
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    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't want something rigid like that. I've been quite a few places where even those aerodynamic side skirts would get ripped off due to their inability to clear objects and the terrain. If people would get their heads out of their hind end and pay attention to what they are doing, stuff like this wouldn't happen. If the truck driver knew how to drive, that wouldn't have happened. If the 4-wheeler had realized that the truck driver was an incompetent idiot, they probably would have avoided pulling up there, too...but we're all SUPPOSED to be "professionals"...which implies a certain skill and proficiency at our trade. The only thing the car driver did wrong was to assume the truck driver was competent at his job.
     
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    Mudguppy Degenerate Immoralist

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    Uh, no.
    On a 2-lane right turn, if you were to take the "inside" of the two, you will not have enough swing room to make the turn without either (1)having your trailer track over the curb/sign/pedestrian/whatever else is on the corner, OR (2)to avoid tracking your trlr tandems too sharp, you will have to encroach on the other turn lane on your port side. Neither way is good.

    That's why kids you should always take the wider swinging lane of a two-lane turn. In this case the leftmost of the two.

    Oh yeah, on topic- the "driver" in the vid was an idiot. Period.
     
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    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Yep and this is why they have 2 right turn lanes.Here they made both turn lanes wide enough for a semi to take either but I always use the outer lane.
     
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    Check with mr smith and his defensive driving course . You never put traffic on your blindside when you can prevent it . You want them on your drivers side so when you need to use more room you have it and can see where they are .

    As I said trucking 101 should teach this that's the problem with training today . Plenty of it but not a lot of it being done right .

    Like forest gump was fond of saying .....that's all I got to about that .
     
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    I was not saying you were being argumentative, I put that line in there to point out a comparison with your earlier post stating that you thought I was trying to make it sound that the 4 wheeler was at fault, when clearly, I said otherwise.


    How you draw that conclusion, confounds me.
     
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    Trucking 101 huh? Well, I subscribe to the daily publication "Real Life". To each his own I guess, but.....

    If you are turning right in a 2-lane turn, onto a two-lane street, you absolutely cannot correctly complete that turn from the right-hand of the two turning lanes, with a 53' trailer, without one of the two possible outcomes I listed earlier. No ifs, ands, or butts about it. Anyone who says otherwise, well, I'm not the type to call a man a liar unless it's face to face......However, I would be extremely interested to see proof of this super-human feat.....I say it can't be done. But until or unless I see otherwise, I'm not pushing my point any further.

    I'm also a fan of Forest Gump quotes. My favorite?

    Something like "Stupid is as stupid does...."

    Safe trips driver......