Weight limitations for flat beds

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Container, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. Container

    Container Bobtail Member

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    Is it possible to have 2 x 20 ft. containers, 35.000 lb each, Total 70.000 lb on a flat bed.
    How many axels?
    Is this currently available as standard?
    Who is a good production partner of such trailers?
    Thank you for your answers.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Nope. Illegal. Divisible load. End of story.

    You need TWO trailers, any old 5 axle rig will do.
     
  4. Gunner75

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    Agree with triple here, you'll have to run it in 2 loads
     
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  5. Container

    Container Bobtail Member

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    Excuse me for not talking your language, but do you have a link to a picture, to explain?
    Thank you very much.
     
  6. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Cornbread language. You would need an overweight permit and 6 axles for a 70000lb load. And your axle weights would have to be absolutely perfect to scale it. Best bet is 7 for a 70k load.

    And for any overweight permit, it would have one piece, not two. For two, the states would require you to get another truck to haul the other. Two containers making 70000 load wouldn't be happening. Illegal as hell. With a divisible load, you would be limited to 80000 gross weight, trailer weight included. With a 70000lb load, you're going to gross @110-115k. Has to be one piece. Got it?
     
  7. Container

    Container Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your time.
    So we would need two tractors, having one trailer each with 5-6-7 axels. What do you call those trailers?
    Do you count, 40k-45k pounds for one tractor (x lb) and one trailer (x lb?) About what is the weight for each?
    Weight you count per axel?
    Thanks again.
     
  8. TripleSix

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    My time has expired. Sorry.
     
  9. x1Heavy

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    NOPE. 70K freight? Forget it. Illegal.

    I have experience with Freuhauf tandems that did local and regional flatbedding in any and all weather, particularly ice. and never wanted for anything when we finally discarded the old aged COE's and got the newer Mack Daycab CH Models with the relatively big 350. Run Townhill at 42 loaded 80K gross and half fuel tanks all the way up. Compared to the old Big Cam III at 17 mph maxed out in low range. waiting for the turbo to starve, water to boil off or fuel to run dry, one or all three.

    My next set of flatbed was a better one made by RAVENS in the early 90's I think they are owned by Reitanouer now (Spelling?) these could take a 52200 pound coil when tarps, steel tools, stakes and so on not necessary to securement of such max loads of coils are left behind to be relayed by company pickup truck later in week.

    The 52200 represented for me both a absolute design limit for that Ravens and a complete and total war to make sure that securement using all 20 straps (4 inch), all 24 chains and both types of binders, Wood dunnage underneath and conveyor belt rubber tsrips between wood and half inch shipping hull steel. Those came out of Gary In.

    The Ravens featured a rear spread axle 10 foot clearance so that you can load 40K on the rear end and not orry about the louisiana scales. By the same token if a Gator got between the tandems and is long enough to be on the axles end to end, you might wanna make it known to the good ol boys locally who who'll hunt it with your help and kill it three times when in season and tags arvaliable. Or it becoimes a direct life threat to a school yard etc.

    But with that kind of a load you did worry about tipping. Even 2 mph on a 20 mph ramp in a puffy wind is not slow enough to ensure safetly. So what you do is you load up the inside wheels wait for the inside tires to start coming off the pavement. Then slow 2 mph. Whateer the speed that results in thsi flatbed math is the speed you use all the way around. No worries.
     
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  10. not4hire

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    The trailer only needs 2 axles. When someone refers to a 5-axle it is the combination of tractor and trailer; 3 axles on the tractor, plus 2 on the trailer. As already mentioned, single load of 35,000 lbs will not be a problem on a 5-axle.

    The other thing you will have to be aware of is if the container is a high-cube or not. Normally the maximum non-permitted height is 13' 6". A regular container--8' 6" height--can be hauled on a flat deck (if not being hauled on a container chassis), but a high-cube--9' 6" height--will have to be hauled on a step-deck or permitted for the height.
     
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  11. johndeere4020

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    You made if farther than I would have.
     
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