weights on Rate cons?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by lokltrkr, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. lokltrkr

    lokltrkr Bobtail Member

    Jul 11, 2010
    central Wisconsin
    Friday night I was picking up a load that was supposed to weigh 4875 lbs. the load weighed 17000 lbs I bid the load on the original weight not the weight they loaded.

    I screwed up and pulled it anyway against my better judgement thinking it would get straightened out on Monday when the brokers were in the office. I was given another 100.00 and the broker acted like it was the end of the world to have to give it up, hell I was asking for 500.00. I just crossed that particular broker off my call list.

    The brokers want to hold our feet to the fire and if we are late they want to fine us, I have a 100% on time rating with all the brokers I haul for and one would have thought that might have gotten me more consideration than it did.

    what have some of you done when this happens?
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2020
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    DMTLLC Light Load Member

    May 1, 2020
    When a Broker post a Cat 336 with a weight of 80,000...I ask if its a E or F Model?, Attachments? Their reply is "I'll get back with you"..crickets, I have learned that some Brokers are looking for Idiots.
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    You probably burnt a bridge with that broker so hopefully they weren't a good source. The difference in fuel burned between a 4,500 lb and a 17,000 lb is so negligible to be hardly noticed and as far as that is concerned a 45,000 lb load too. If you're pulling a box or reefer bid everything and expect it to be 45,000 lbs and you won't ever be disappointed. I never understood guys that would avoid heavier loads. They're not always cheap. Tune that truck up and dial it in right so you can stroll up the hills/mountains and that 45,000 lb load is a breeze just the same as any light one is.
  5. PPDCT

    PPDCT Road Train Member

    Jun 15, 2017
    St. Paul, MN
    Sometimes, though- some of the customers we deal with just send over an email that requests a quote to move a CAT 336. Literally nothing else, no model iteration, no track show width, no boom info, no bucket size, no counterweight info, or if anything is broken down or anything like that.

    And those same customers - it's like pulling hen's teeth getting those specifics out of them, because there's brokers out there who will just say, "Okay a Cat 336 shows an operating weight of 81,900lbs. I bet I can find someone with an RGN to do this!" without actually having the specifics you'll need for permitting. Because they either don't understand or don't care what goes into it, from your end. I try to have that kind of info in advance, because alllllll of those things change the equations, and weights, and so on. I also beat it into the heads of people when I'm doing training that we *need* all of that info, because you *need* all of that info to make informed decisions.

    It is what it is, I guess. I know it's frustrating to deal with that from your perspective.

    Going to OP's original question, though - I guess it'd depend on the circumstances of the deal. I'd have offered you something more, but I'd need to know more about the specifics of how the load was booked. Was it supposed to be a partial? Was there additional linear footage and so on? Or did you book it as a dedicated run? Miles? That kinda stuff? There's more missing info that I'd need before I can give you a proper evaluation from a broker's perspective.
  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    Dec 11, 2010
    West Monroe, La
    Was this a Hot shot or a class 8 truck & trailer?
    God prefers Diesels Thanks this.
  7. JonJon78

    JonJon78 Road Train Member

    Jul 1, 2018
    When you booked a load that is supposed to be 45k and you show up only to find out its 10k do you call the broker back and offer to give him some of the money on the load back?
  8. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

    May 10, 2015
    Detroit, MI
    This is an old argument and I don't agree with it being used.
    There are areas where I don't book heavy loads period. For example Midwest to Carolinas I only do 35k max.
    The loads can be lighter, but not heavier. Brokers know a lot of truckers don't move heavy loads and it's their job to have the correct load information.

    DMTLLC Light Load Member

    May 1, 2020

    This has nothing to do with a single piece of Equipment...Partial? Footage? Dedicated?
    80K was an often used weight for something that actually weighs 86-88K depending on how the Machine is equipped, on some occasions the F model has weighed 94K....
    SOME BROKERS are looking for someone to say"OK"...
  10. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

    Nov 16, 2013
    Baltimore, Maryland
    First. Don't bid on a load by the weight, things are always being added. Yes its nice when you get a light load, but you can’t count on it. If it is a partial and you can't fit other frieght on then its no longer a partial and you can negotiate a full truck load rate. When you bid on a load, base it on mileage, tolls the going rate for the lane. And if you can load out of the delivery area for a decent rate. The only time I want more money on a load is if I know that the route takes me through the mountains. To be honest, your lucky they gave you $100.
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2020
  11. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW No Filter

    May 19, 2011
    Is it really that or more like lots of brokers are just ignorant to the fact that there can be so many differences in one particular machine?

    Far as the op, complaining over nothing in my opinion. I’ve went to load more loads that are supposed to be heavy and end up not. I really don’t get why some people make such a big deal out it.
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