We're Being Watched, and its not just driver facing cameras.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by silverspur, Aug 22, 2025.

  1. BeHereNow97

    BeHereNow97 Road Train Member

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    I deleted the first part of my prior post in this thread because I didn't want to veer too far off topic.

    But basically, I said that there's two groups thoughts when it comes to AI and automation and either you think it'll be good or it'll be bad.

    I personally think humans will adapt and it won't be a cultural or economic apocalypse where everybody is put out of work. We will just find new jobs for people to do. No different to every other time in history like the Industrial Revolution.

    I don't know what sources you're reading, but I believe you because I believe in exponential numbers and what happens when things start accelerating (there's probably an official theory of what I'm trying to say but I can't think of it right now).

    That said, again, local driving jobs where you touch freight aren't going anywhere for another 50 years. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean it's economically feasible.

    Also, you have to think of the role insurance plays. Does insurance and government feel okay with a robot driving a fuel tanker down the road? Probably not.

    Another thing that you're not thinking of, which the government probably is, is that if all OTR trucks (for example) were being driven by AI with maybe one human overseeing 10 AI trucks or something like that, do you not think that those trucks can be hacked be foreign enemies and thus bring the country to a standstill at any moment?

    It's in the governments interests not to let this happen. It's the reason why the government makes banks (correct me if I'm wrong here) keep backup databases that can't be hacked for financial records and stocks and bank accounts and stuff like that (so basically like a higher tech version of a USB flash card). So if a foreign country hacks the "financial grid", financial institution's still have backups and will know how much money and assets each person is supposed to have when the grid comes back up.

    But what is the backup for trucks if AI is driving all the OTR trucks? There is no backup if a foreign country hacks the AI trucks and shuts them down and brings freight around the US to a standstill.

    So to summarize I'm not necessarily disputing your statement on how fast the technology is coming, I'm disputing the practicality, want and need for it at the financial/business level, the government security level and the insurance companies level.
     
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  3. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Practicality, most of AI deployment will be useless. But that doesn't matter if it looks like the business can "save money". Any attempt to mitigate the impact of job loses will get labeled socialism, particularly if it results in higher taxes that negate the AI "savings". We are nearing an inflection point of history - which means the potential for disaster in the short term is monumental.
     
  4. OldeSkool

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  5. BeHereNow97

    BeHereNow97 Road Train Member

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    I disagree. AI is in the infant stages right now. Off the top of my head it's taken away jobs in freelance writing, freelance art, coding in the tech space, driverless taxis. Note I did not say it's taken away ALL jobs in those fields, or even a significant amount. But it has taken some jobs away from those fields.

    I read a comment on Reddit, I don't know how accurate it is, but the comment said AI is at the level of "junior coder" or something like that. I don't know about coding so I don't necessarily know how to decipher that comment, but I'm assuming "junior coding" means that AI is somewhat at the level of a college student or recent college graduate in Computer Science. Meaning, it still makes somewhat frequent mistakes probably but it gets the general outlines of things decently enough for a human to roll with it, correct the errors and start from that baseline that AI gave it. Meaning, it has massive potential to take away a significant amount of tech jobs as it progresses beyond just "junior coding".

    I 100% disagree with you that "most of AI deployment will be useless".

    But as I replied to Lennythedriver, when it comes to the trucking industry I'm disputing the practicality, want and need for it at the financial/business level, the government security level and the insurance companies level. I stand by that. I don't think these concerns necessary translate to other industries though where AI might indeed be more practical (for lack of a better word).

    I don't get what you are trying to infer here. Can you please explain in detail what you mean?
     
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  6. idriveaholden

    idriveaholden Super Heavy Hauler

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    the Bible , specifically the last chapter

    go try to find a coding job , you can’t ai is way more advanced then you’re assuming.

    they’ve been working on this for a long time… they have 2030 agenda. Go read some white papers

    https://reports.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Intelligent_Transport_Greener_Future_2025.pdf
     
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  8. buzzarddriver

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    If AI continues to take jobs from the masses, where are all of those prospective burger flippers going to earn their meager wages?
     
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  9. Lennythedriver

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    In the last few months alone, I’ve used AI to draw up a will, create the outline for an LLC, create the outline for creating an irrevocable trust to protect assets, looked into a outside legal parameters around my HOA to rent my property out in an unconventional way that’s legal, and would be within the requirements of my HOA, Had a complete accounting formulation worked up, for tracking costs, expenses and tax write offs for a business idea I have, all of these things done in a matter of minutes, and all of them provided to me for free with sound correct legal advice, better than any. Attorney could give me, or that I could spend hours and hours of research finding myself. And keep in mind we are still in the first generation of this technology. Other things I’ve used it for, health related questions, diet, related questions, filing, taxes, you name it, all things I would’ve paid money for. A far superior fashion, with more accuracy and instantaneously using artificial intelligence. We are in the infancy stage of this. It is not going to be useless. That much I can guarantee you.

    You can also send a picture of anything. Literally anything and it will tell you every single thing you want to know about whatever you’re sending it whether it be a legal document, a contract, analyzing pictures, I had a hot water heater malfunctioning on me all I didn’t send it a picture and tell it the symptoms and it told me exactly what was wrong with it what the model number was how to get the part where to get the part and how to put it in and even provided step-by-step illustration.
     
  10. gentleroger

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    Have a lawyer look over the legal documents.
     
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    What's weird is that you'll be sitting on the back porch talking to your wife about crab legs or something, next thing you know, your Google News feed is ate up with advertising for crab legs.
     
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