Werner DUI exclusion policy

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  1. Silverider

    Silverider Bobtail Member

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    To people considering Werner, here's a copy of a letter I sent on Dec. 31, 2009. I expect their policy is a product of self-insurance dweebs allowed too much naysaying power in their HQ. :biggrin_25513:
    IF I get any reply, I'll post it.

    To Werner:
    I recently responded to a Werner request for me to file an application by filing an application online and phoning recruiting.

    I was informed that Werner refuses applications from anyone who's had a DUI during their lifetimes.

    In my case, my DUI was over twenty-five years ago, and since that time I've been in recovery, in AA, absolutely free of alcohhol or drugs. I've worked with many employers who've had employees with drinking problems. I've counseled these employees and many others in my office, in prisons, in hospitals and institutions.

    Your policy is absurd and neeless. It's effect is to disqualify some of the best possible employees you could find by excluding people who've acknowledged and recovered from their problems.

    I intend to disclose your policy on the Truckers Report forums, but I also will candidly report your response to this email as well.
     
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  3. jtrnr1951

    jtrnr1951 Road Train Member

    I can see why they do it, and it IS their choice !!!!!!!!

    I'll drink to that !!!!!!
     
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  4. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    So what!!! A lot of the better companies to driver for, will not take anyone with a DUI either, or a criminal record. You are a higher insurance risk, so you cost more to hire. Why should a company pay for your mistake? I have no use for people that drink and drive, you made the choice and now must pay the price.

    I believe in the policy, if it was my company I would not hire a person with a DUI or criminal record. Before you start calling me all name, I do think that I small percentage of do learn there lessons. But, the vast majority do not.

    Mark
     
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    gearjammer-2000 <strong>Clutch User</strong>

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    finally found another human that is sinless, we are saved
     
  6. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Besides alot of these companies have to cross the border into Canada and having ANY DUI on the record can be a major problem.
     
  7. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    It's their company, It's their truck...They can hire or not hire whoever they choose for whatever reason they choose.
     
  8. Bumpy

    Bumpy Road Train Member

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    I,too,have run into this problem,as when I was 20 years old I got a DUI,or,DWI as we call it here in MN.Now,Im no going to get long winded on this(,I hope)but who reading his now,who has a few years on them,(I am 50)is the same now as when hey were 20?? For all you holier than thou"s,can you honestly say that,in your life,you have never had 2 beers in an hour and drove your car anywhere? That being said,any company can make any rule they want,that is fine with me,but from what I have read and heard about Werner,if one is not drinking going in,-one will be when they leave!! LOL:biggrin_2559:
     
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  9. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    Part of a post by SilverRider:

    "In my case, my DUI was over twenty-five years ago, and since that time I've been in recovery, in AA, absolutely free of alcohhol or drugs. I've worked with many employers who've had employees with drinking problems. I've counseled these employees and many others in my office, in prisons, in hospitals and institutions."

    FMCSR 391.41(b)(13) speaks to the issue of "current diagnosis of alcoholism". Seems to me you've got grounds for appeal if you were denied a CDL, but as has been said, a company can deny an applicant for many, many reasons of their own making. Recovering alcoholics and recovering substance abusers are not in any of the so-called protected classes.

    Best of luck to you SilverRider! You want this enough to fight for it, right?

    P.S. When you leave somewhere you don't say "Hiyoooo Silver and away", do you?:toothy8: Naaaah, you're probably too young!
     
  10. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    I'm very different than when I was 20...But the point is that it's their company and they have the policy...
    Many companies are not hiring people with DUI's no matter how far in the past they were because they don't have to hire them.

    If I was going to hire a driver for my truck and had the choice between two equally qualified drivers wit the only difference being, One had a DUI 20 years ago, I'd go with the guy without the DUI.

    Why thake a chance when a better option is available?

    Being realistic about the possibility of a person with a prior drinking problem doesn't make one a "holier than thou" but is in my opinion a necessary consideration in todays litigious business environment.


    YES! I don't drink.

    Although you meant that to be funny and it was by the way...

    Maybe they're actually considering that...Plenty of people that used to have a drinking problem have fallen off the wagon after many years of sobriety due to stress.

    That would be a part of my thought process during consideration of the above mentioned 2 equally qualified drivers.
     
  11. Okieron

    Okieron Crusty Okie

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    I think the point should be a company can hire who they want not. it has become some kind of rule that if you apply they must hire with people today. I understand that people make mistakes, but I also know as a business owner that I had to set certain standards that were not popular , but thats life you live love and leave it or you hate it.
     
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