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West coast fuel truck and trailer

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Air Cooled, Aug 31, 2013.

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  1. Aug 31, 2013 #1
    Air Cooled

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    I grew up on the east coast my whole life but moved out west almost three years ago. I drive for a fuel company and even though we operate a few semi trailers, most are the common truck and trailer setup. For the east coasters its basically a truck with a mounted tank pulling a similar sized tank trailer connected by a draw bar/tongue. It's basically like pulling and backing a radio flyer wagon. Even though its a challenge to back, it allows you to squeeze and cheat your way into tight stations. I've never seen this truck setup before I moved out here. I've asked why and my coworkers just say its bc we go to some tight urban stations. It makes sense to me however, why aren't these in the rest of the country? I mean wouldn't this setup be useful in places like NYC, DC, Philly and Baltimore? Anyone know why these run only out west?
     
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  3. Aug 31, 2013 #2
    Passin Thru

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    Way back when, like they had 2 stick single stack Macks, Eastern states didn't allow those setups and they just never caugth on. Try to look up a Consolidated Freightways PA Turnpike setup and you'll see one of the most dangerous trucks ever built, that and the CF cab-under. Here in N VA some rock haulers have them but they are rare due to weight. Heavier ety.

    http://hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/archer/ra_cf_frtlnr_slider.jpg
    http://hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/mike_fleming/2013/04-03/image001.html
    http://hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/mike_fleming/2013/04-03/image002.html
     
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    Chinatown Thanks this.
  4. Aug 31, 2013 #3
    thirdreef

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    Also to add to passen thru.. The western 14 states has always been 65 ft.. From about Illinois east was 55 ft. That's where the 40 ft trailer and a cab over came into existence. In the west we had trucks with noses and Cab overs. Also the A train was banned back east. (Tractor with two two axle doubles)
     
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  5. Aug 31, 2013 #4
    Air Cooled

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    What is that box between the trailer? Seems funky what makes it so dangerous? Before fuel I drove transfer dump trucks. Back east there aren't too many places to transfer and they are loaded right up to gross. I understand why those don't exist on the east coast. I would think the west coast truck and trailers with the split axle on the wagon would evenly distribute weight and have less road wear but I could be wrong. The weight of a loaded semi and a truck and trailer is very close so I don't get it
     
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  7. Aug 31, 2013 #5
    thirdreef

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    . the semi can only haul 73,000 because of the inner bridge and the truck and trailer is 80, 000. For dumps the semi is defiantly faster, the truck and trailer you have to split up. They are better in a tight spot than a semi, and the trailer tracks with the truck and a semi cheats. And at least on the west coast the semi will work most of the winter hauling big rock to the coast. On the truck and trailer the axles grosses are 12. 34. 20. 20 so it's easier to get loaded.
     
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  8. Aug 31, 2013 #6
    GasHauler

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    Take a look at the trucks in OR, WA, UT. They run the super tankers that are truck and trailers.
     
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  9. Aug 31, 2013 #7
    thirdreef

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    They also have them in Nevada, along with turnpike doubles and triple tankers. With out the lift axle in the supers we can haul 10,700 ga of gas .
     
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  10. Sep 1, 2013 #8
    Chinatown

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  11. Sep 1, 2013 #9
    thirdreef

    thirdreef Medium Load Member

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  12. Sep 1, 2013 #10
    GasHauler

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    Yes, I left out NV because that's where I worked.
     
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