What are the estimated operating costs for an O/O?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Nootherids, Nov 6, 2010.
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They do that to the farmers and their duallies around here at the livestock sale barns.
It's a target rich environment........the tax boys never fail to catch a bunch of them running tax free fuel in their pickups. -
Your truck payment and trailer payments-
Interest on the loan(s) are treated as an expense, but principle payments are not.
Equity in your equipment is carried on the books as a capitol asset, part of your net worth.
The best way to figure it is to subtract what you paid from what you eventually sell it for. If your plan is to sell or trade your truck in, say, three years then estimate what you think it will be worth in three years. Then estimate how many miles you will be running annually and compute your actual cost per mile.
Truck original cost: $40,000
Selling price, three years later: $21,000
Actual cost: $19,000
# of miles driven in three years: 330,000
19000/330,000= .058 cents a mile
Figure interest on your loan the same way, add it to .058 a mile, there's your true cost. If you drive more miles per year your cost per mile will be lower. If you drive less, it will be higher, but your truck will depreciate less.
So your truck payment is not a true monthly cost item. It's subtracted from you cash flow, and treated differently.Last edited: Nov 12, 2010
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BTW, what are the expected average costs of maintenance and tires? Assuming a decently well taken care of used tractor/reefer with about 600,000mi/10,000hrs. I can make a good estimate of compliance fees, fuel costs, office costs, and taxes...but not sure about maint/tires. -
Could somebody explain what "factoring" is (from the original post)? I've never heard that term.
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my future plans will include a reefer btw... im doing ok, but i could do better !! hope it helpsNootherids Thanks this. -
is a company handling your accounts recievable. If you dont haul for a carrier or a broker offing quick pay, often BOLs wont pay for 21-45 days, sometimes 90. factoring companies pay you for your shipments and then they collect from the shipper. usually they change you 10-15%, Eagle Capital charges 4-5%
so if you haul for company A a load to wherever, and they are going to pay you 2,000, the factoring company will pay you a percentage of that from 85-90% then bill the customer for youNootherids and Blackjack Thank this. -
P.S. I am driving under my own authority and not leasing to any other company. My goal is to learn as much as possible and grow my own fleet, hopefully achieving approx 15 trucks in 2 years time.
P.P.S. If you're interested in a reefer, I just secured 1 out of 4 for $29k. 2004 Utility Trailer with ThermoKing SB-190 Units, but the kicker is that they all have re-manufactured engines directly from ThermoKing compliant as 2011 with as little as 10 hours of use and CARB compliant until 2018. 50% tires and brakes. They have financiers that can finance 80-85% of it. And it's directly from the Utility dealership so I'm sure they know how to pick their own trailers that are in excellent shape for resale.
Questions for the experienced O/O's: Do MOST brokers/shipper provide a pay advance of say, 40%, to cover gas and incidental costs? Or is that a rare thing?
@Stringer: I actually have two factoring companies that are both willing to factor loads at 2.5% going up in 0.5% increments every 30 days the account remains unpaid. And they work with either starting O/O's or larger fleets. Orange Commercial Credit and FirstLine Funding Group. I won't post their contacts cause I don't think I'm allowed to, but if you want them send me a PM.Blackjack Thanks this. -
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