What are the responsibilities of trainers if any?

Surely you are being optimistic?!? Let's say I fork over the $675 fee which it costs to hire a local traffic lawyer. What do you really think my outcome will be?

 

He did throw you under the bus. It's what a-holes do. I"m guessing it wasn't the first time, and it won't be last time someone tries to throw you under the bus. Could he have been more helpful? No doubt. Could he have better handled your being too tired? Sure. Does he sound like a a crappy trainer. Yes, he does.

Did you make a mistake and get caught in the wrong lane? Yup. Thing is, even if your trainer had not thrown you under the bus, the outcome would have been the same. YOU would have gotten the ticket. The trainer could have said, "Oh crap, officer, that's my bad. He asked me what lane to be in and I was busy playing with the Qualcom. I should have told him to move over". But YOU would have still received the ticket. The officer can only give the ticket to the driver.

So, what's that mean to you? It means you know your trainer is an a-hole. It means you have to be more accepting of the responsibilities of being a driver. Pay attention to the signs, know what lane to run, know what the speed limit is, etc. It's your CDL on the line, and you are the only one who cares if keep it.

The student is ultimately the only person responsible for their education. The student has to ask questions, make sure things are understood, seek out the best teachers, etc... It may well mean that you have to find another trainer, but i'd suggest starting with a disscusion with your current trainer and figure out what you BOTH expect from each other.

AND you should take to heart what @TripleSix said in post #23. I think he was right on. I don't think he was just trying to bust your balls for fun. That post was was just the cold truth.

 

even tho you are new, its your responsibility to know the rules and regulations. granted you cant/wont know them all immed. but CA advises of what lanes trucks can be in. if you are unsure stay in the right lane. pay attention to your signs. good luck and be safe.

 

Your so-called trainer is a POS!

 

Reduced to a seat belt ticket $250 no moving violation. It's not optimism it's 5 years experience and a few tickets. As a new driver it is well worth it to belong to a legal service they will take $7 a week out if your check when you get a ticket you call them and that's it, they handle it their objective is to keep points off your record and they are good at it. I would still be a member myself but I'm a heavy haul driver now and going fast isn't part of the game. Also I don't drive in that den of thieving pigs california. When I was new I got alot of tickets for many things some because I didn't take time learn something some for basic #### like speeding or being in the wrong lane what ever the reason you get better smarter and a lot fewer tickets. But no matter the cost protect your record.

 

As others have implied it let me say it - what responsibilities do you have?

As another said - you have not been on US highways before? You did not read the signs that appear almost every state? You did not take driver's ed sometime around the age of 16? You did not notice it is common courtesy to pass on the left? Never heard of the slow lane? You did not just take a written test to get your CDL.? You did not take a driving test to get a CDL? You did not just graduate from a CDL driving school to be at a training company? You did not watch a bunch of safety films in orientation? Really!

Since you did not think about something so obvious to the rest of us, I doubt you thought about what this training situation really is. It is not about teaching your how to drive. You toke a state certified tests to get a CDL; you should be able to do the job at that point with no additional training. You probably even went to a trucking school. For what that school costs, it should have trained you in every detail necessary to do this job.
At the 3-5 day orientation these trucking companies have, they should have ironed out any details left out for you, but that doesn't happen.

Training is about the trucking company obfuscating it's responsibility; the trucking company cannot tell you how to run illegal without them being liable for the outcome. If a trainer teaches you something that is illegal the office staff is isolated from the outcome. That is what training it is all about. A trainer can teach you to cheat the logs and run around the scales and all the other crazy crap the office staff doesn't want to mention. They don't want mention it because they will fire you for doing it when they feel you are not needed anymore.

So now you know, what responsibility do you think the trainer has? You are nothing but an extra log book to him. Most trainer's are such poor drivers and trip planners they could not afford to eat without the extra log book, YOU, on board. Take that to the bank, and man up and learn you will have to take responsibility for everything you do in Trucking, everybody else will pass the buck on to you even if it is their responsibility.

 

You know the word trainer is not the right word and because we have redefined it to mean something it isn't, we get these questions.

The driver is responsible, period.

The other guy isn't

The cop should never take in account some other party telling the driver how to drive, it is the drivers responsibility.

As I said you got a cdl, then you were trained to drive the truck by passing the road test.

 

At Conway a trainer was called a finisher.

Moreso top rate +10 cpm professional napper. Its a true do nothing job a dream job for a lot of people if they knew about it.


They are supposed to teach you how to change lights pop back in tandem springs back up in truck stops and route properly.

A lot of em just play on their computer the entire time. Pull em out the seat and back it in their selves.

 

All of those questions seem irrelevant as previously I stated that I was too tired and became confused. So do you think taking drivers ed at age 16 would have any impact on the current situation. I don't think so. I allowed my trainer to convince me to drive against my better judgment and when I became confused about which lane to drive in, I did what could arguably be considered a good response: I asked my trainer. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR (right?) Here's my opinion: if students are going to be forced to drive with a trainer there should be some clearly defined rules such as: if a student expresses confusion about which lane to drive in (regardless of whether they completed their CDL book test) and if said student verbally asks trainer for help, trainer should have some responsibility to make a sincere effort to help the student in a timely manner with information or otherwise offer to take over driving duties.

It's just my opinion, but I do thank you for your comments.