What are the rules for logbooks?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JoeT, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Can't work more than 70 hours in 8 days. Can't work more than 14 hours in a day. Can't drive more than 11 hours in the 14 hour work day. Keep log book up to date at last change of duty status. Keep it neat! Fill in all lines with correct info. Lines not used should have "N/A" in them. Make sure you have last 7 days. Recap is not required but will help you keep track of your hours.
     
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  3. snafu

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    Wrong... you need to be able to produce the last 14 days if you get stopped in Canada.

     
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  4. Ironman6622

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    Just remember E-logs are the devil and Paper logs are your friend and you will do just fine!
     
  5. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    No, I'm right. I'm not a Canadian nor did he ask about Canadian log rules. Thanks and come again!
     
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  6. snafu

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    Ignorance isn't your friend and he never specified.
    Given the number of U.S. carriers that cross the border, new drivers should know ALL of the log rules...

    Next time pay attention, you might actually learn something.
     
  7. HotH2o

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    So riddle me this batman. Why only correct me on the number of days a log must be kept? There are many differences in logging when crossing the border yet you felt the need to correct me on one?? For example. In Canada you're only allowed 70 hours in 7 days. Also, in Canada you're allowed to work a 16 hour day. Furthermore in Canada a reset is 36 hours off opposed to united states 34 hour rule. There are many more yet you only touched on 1. If you're going to play Mr. Know it all you might want to list all Canadian rules. I mean, you don't wipe your ### half way do you? Maybe you do.....



    Youre right. He never specified so how the hell can I be wrong? In fact I wasn't wrong about anything I posted. Everything I posted was true.
     
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  8. dude6710

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    Don't worry about log books they ain't that many points compared to operating faulty equipment
     
  9. dibstr

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    If he was wrong for offering a synopsis of only the U.S. regs, wouldn't you be equally wrong for providing only the Canadian? Perhaps you meant addendum? Just asking.

    I guess any confusion would rest on what the op wanted to know about, but it seems unlikely he was concerned with why Canadian regs were not in his Texas manual. Just saying!

    Best regards
     
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  10. snafu

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    Wrong. You can also work 120hrs in a 14 day cycle but you must take 24hrs off before you hit the 70hr mark.

    Wrong. 14hrs. You have a 16hr window from the time you go on duty to get your work in for the day. You cannot drive after 13hrs driving, 14hrs total on duty time or 16hrs has elapsed from the the time you started your shift before taking 8hrs consecutive off.

    Bravo...you got one right.

    I corrected the one you stated which if he went into Canada and followed your advice, would get him into trouble. If he were to operate under every other aspect of U.S. HOS rules, with the exception of the extra 2 hrs needed for a reset, he'd still be legal.
    No it wasn't and no you weren't.
     
  11. snafu

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    Perhaps he might be concerned with it but being ignorant of the laws as they apply to the industry is no excuse.

    DOT officers on both sides of the border love taking money from those who're too ignorant to know the laws of the land. Why feed them when you don't have to...
     
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