What are you thoughts on hauling overweight out of the quarry?

there’s about 3 rules in dirt dummy 1 0 1

1. never push the wagon

2. Never dump side by side

3. never go over a scale…

 

I’ve learned something in this industry since I’ve went OTR as a trucker. You have to get respect. And yes, you should earn it, but if you allow the powers that be to push you around and take advantage of you, they will. Now this doesn’t mean you need to be irrational or emotional or out of control about things but you have to put your foot down when certain things come up and this is one of them. Trust me, they will respect you more in the long run. Yeah he’ll stomp off and have his little temper fit because you made his job a little more challenging, but at the end of the day, he’ll respect you for it. And he won’t try to pull this again. Every now and then you just have to send them a little message. I don’t play that way. I run legal and that’s that.

 

That's the ####ed up state of this industry. You can load em up to 80k just fine but stuff starts wearing out a lot faster when you go above that. Are the low rates really worth it? Another common practice is to log a bunch of on duty time as off duty so a driver can save their drive time. No compensation for inefficient customers who waste time. #### em. If you're an owner operator you gotta do what it takes to get the job done and make money sometimes.

When you're a driver though #### that! Do it by the book. Sorry ### customers wasting everyone's time need to eat some of that cost instead of trying to shovel it off on drivers. In OP's shoes I would do as another poster suggested and pretend like the conversation with management never happened. Keep on making sure that truck is loaded to the legal weight. The law is on the driver's side here. If other drivers want to pay for the tickets good for them. If the quarry wants to whine about the wasted time #### them they need to figure out how to load it right the first time. It aint rocket science. Figure it out.

 

30 ton isn’t heavy….

“Are you losing loads each day because of the time taken to trim your load?

Possibly, but I would be the pushing the limits to get to the quarry before they close up and then be looking at a 13 to 14 hr day. I have yet to be asked to try this or dispatcherd that way. I have pulled 3 loads in a day once in 2 months. The drop point was much closer to the quarry than most loads. On other loads, 2 has been the norm and that's always been a 9.5 to 10.5 hr day”

Yea… that’s supposed to be 3 a day then…

 

Ain't that the truth! When I was working for good ol' John Boy Hunt, I got an O/W from CalTrans when the shipper overloaded my by 5-6k over what the BOL said. Dispatcher told me to not worry, just send us the ticket and we'll take care of it!

Eight months later, a scale house in TN pulled me over for a full DOT check and they found an unpaid OW fine from CA! Then they handcuffed me! I spent about 5 hours CHAINED TO THE WALL inside the scalehouse like a murderer waiting for arraignment. JB started to immediately pay the unpaid ticket but it took so long that if they'd come through just 10 minutes later, I would've been at the county hoosegow! So, yeah, they PAID it, but d@mn.......

 

What do you consider to be a lot over weight? 1000-1500 I'm gonna roll with it. Much more than that uhh maybe, maybe not.
How long does it take to go back around and lose some weight?

 

At 1500 over I am also going back, to put Atleast another bucket on….

30 ton is also a legal load In the north east (minus CT), depends on where you are running, and where you are loading. MA is $20 per 1000 over up to 10,000 over then it’s tripled IIRC, so with a 99000 pound permit your best value is to be about 108,500 if you are working during the day and leaving the usual spots, most DOT up here don’t work nights/weekends so when I was in a bunk truck hauling sludge or dirty dirt out to NY we would usually load 125-130k, sometimes stuff happens though loading with a big machine and you wind up closer to 140k, leave out at midnight and get to the landfill early to take a nap, CT did not issue reducible permits but not a single one of us ever gave a fck and would load MA/Ny weight into CT as long as we weren’t hauling salt for DoT for obvious reasons, the salt mine wouldn’t let you out heavy anyway so 99 or 102k (ny) was all you were getting on 5 some of the landfills started doing “time outs” for coming in too heavy in recent years though.

The average OTR guy wont get it, and I really can’t explain it, but why get paid for one load when I can get paid for 2?

#### pulling a bucket any more, I run my reefer chunky, but no where near what I’m used to.