What companies would give an ex-felon a chance to prove themselves?

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  1. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Road Train Member

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    I said this earlier:

    If you are truly 'rehabilitated' and you learned your lesson, try to get your record expunged. If not, then you don't deserve that 2nd chance for reasons such as I stated in my previous post. If you got job driving then I'm happy for you. Not being able to find a job you want doesn't justify stealing what I and others worked hard to legally get.
     
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    It's ok if you disagree with me or dont take my warning seriously, it will be people like you that pay in the end, when all you had to do is give people a chance. There's alot of good people that made mistakes or were innocent in the 1st place. Here in Ill there have been a huge number of people released for false conviction's. I myself wasnt innocent and dont have any serious felonies, but the way Im treated I would have been better off to shoot someone in the face, the punishment is all the same. Im just saying that the outcome is going to be very bad if it continues. I myself have found work fairly easily. Some good paying some not, but Ive been turned down for housing, good job's that I was qualified for, and such. I was 18 when I was convicted, it's been 14 year's now without even a speeding ticket, a college degree, and a solid work record, I payed for the crimes, why do I have to continue to pay??????
     
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    You can try to justify it all you want, but if you try to steal from me then I will exercise my 2nd amendment rights. Why do you have to continue to pay? Because not too many people are actually 'rehabilitated' when they get out of prison. Maybe you're the one in a million, but that's a chance that I and others prefer not to take.

    If you can get a court convinced you're rehabilitated enough to get your record expunged, then I and others would be willing to take that chance with you.
     
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    You dont understand. An expungement can take year's to get. It's almost a miracle if you are granted one. People are turned down for minor felonies, you act like anyone who has a felony is a murderer,rapist,child molester ect. They dont grant very many expungement's for the very reason is crime and prison's are profitable. They want to make life impossible that way you offend again. Im not saying it justifies breaking the law, Im just saying, people arent going to go without when they have already paid there debt to society, there going to rebel, if your constantly treated like a criminal eventually that will be your only choice.
     
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    While I understand the basic premise of your thoughts, I have to disagree. To return to crime as way of supporting yourself would be to prove the point of those who say felons don't deserve a second chance.

    The good news here is that there's really no reason to resort to a return to past mistakes. Some things in life and employment you will simply be barred from due to your felony, no matter how old it is. For those, it just has to accepted that no matter how unfair it seems, it is what it is and will remain that way. For the other things in life and employment (the ones you aren't barred from) they may be difficult to accomplish - but not impossible. There are often multiple (legal) ways to accomplish certain goals.

    The only point to this response is to point out that even the idea that one would return to crime because of the narrow-mindedness of society is a dangerous idea, indeed. Again, I understand the underlying meaning of what you said and I understand the aggravation. But going back to that way of life (even if it was just a one-time event) should never, ever be an option.
     
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    Lol your 2nd amdm right's mean nothing to me if Im armed as well, I might get the 1st shot off. And again you have a huge coprehension problom, I never said it was justifiable, Im just saying when you keep people down and dont ever give them a chance to get back up, expect a nasty fight. And if I continue to pay well then I might as well be locked up instead of trying to live an impossible life of so callled freedom, being locked up is easy, trying to live this kind of life isnt. Rehabilitated, why do I need a court to confirm I am? The very act of freeing me establishes rehabilitation, if not, still be there.
     
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    I do understand. I have many friends who have been in prison. What you and other felons don't understand is that there are plenty of employers out there who have no issue taking in a one-time offender. Just because you can't get the job you want doesn't mean the world is over. Live within your needs, not beyond them.
     
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    You won't get the first shot off. Approach me in a manner I don't like and I won't give you the chance to draw. You might as well stop now while you have some dignity left. You aren't doing anything except giving me more reasons to believe why felons don't deserve a 2nd chance.
     
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    Well #### someone get's it. Im not saying I would, for the most part Ive done pretty good for myself. My point is I see it coming, Ive even had some pretty wild idea's myself that I hope Im never forced to act upon. If one guy like me has these thought's, think about a mass having the same thought's. It's scary, and Im not scared of anything. This guy just cant get what Im trying to say, then has the idea that an expungement is the answere, and if you cant get it, then you dont deserve a chance to live a normal life, but doesnt get the concept that every action has a reaction, treating people like criminal's will only lead to one thing, they will be criminals
     
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    I do get it. You aren't reading my posts. What he said is similar to what I've been saying. As I said: I knew you weren't serious when you said that. You were hypothetically speaking. So was I.