What companies would give an ex-felon a chance to prove themselves?

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  1. DE36535

    DE36535 Light Load Member

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    This is a very dangerous way to think, bro. If you have a felony, you may as well accept that you're gonna pay for it the rest of your life in some ways. Not saying it's right - just saying that's the way it is. Let me ask a question, if you don't mind: suppose you come across someone who was recently released from a felony conviction and they're having a really hard time finding a decent job or living situation. Is your advice to them going to be, "screw it! Make them pay and just go back to your old way of life." I would hope you'd never give anyone that advice - and that includes yourself.
     
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    Wow, I dont think your brain is at full capacity. Your definatley not even coming close to getting what my point is. I dont care really to be honest with you, Im just giving people something to think about, not to try to scare, but what I know is on somepeople's mind's. Draw? what is this, high noon western day's?? Maybe you wouldnt see me coming. Im actually not a violent person at all, I would never hurt anyone anyway's, but you are way beyond even trying to convince there's a better way than the way thing's are, so I will stop trying to convince you people are worth giving a second chance, your not getting it anyway's
     
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    Your comments are exactly why felons don't deserve a 2nd chance. For the umpti-billionth time, I knew you were hypothetically speaking. Maybe you're not a violent person, but it doesn't matter. My state gives me the right to use deadly force to protect my property, and I will exercise that right. I'm not saying you in particular would do this, but someone in your position that would. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
     
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    I know Im going to pay for it in some form or another. Hell guy I accepted that over a decade ago. Im not asking to be a cop,lawyer,ceo or anything like that. My message isnt really for me, like I said Ive done fairly well for myself, but people with felonies in general. Why is it so hard to understand that the very basic thing's needed to live and succeed are off limit's?? I wouldnt give anyone that advice, but the point is if you only allow people to be criminals what do you think there going to be??
     
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    Ok ghost ryder, I said Im done arguing, you have your way of thinking, I have mine. Mine is reality how ever ugly you may think it is.
     
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    The basic necessities are never off limits, even to repeat offenders. The problem starts when people don't own up to their past and try to resume life as normal afterwards. When you can accept the fact that this will not happen, then chances of becoming a repeat offender reduce. They typically point their finger at everyone else except themselves. Live within your needs. Not beyond them.
     
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    And mine isn't reality? Whatever.
     
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    Um no I dont really think it is. If I live to be a 100 and still paying for what I done when I was 18 you cant really agree with that, can you??? If you broke the law and 50 year's from now you were still paying for it would you think it was fair? Now I know your gonna say your an upstanding citizen and it wouldnt happen, but what if it did? What if you were wrongly convicted? What if you came home and found your wife in bed with another man and lost it? Im just trying to put yourself in someone elses shoe's.
     
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    Lol that's funny #### ghost ryder, I turned myself in, I would have gotten off clear and free. I broke into an ex's house and got my belonging's back, I wasnt charged with theft because I only took what was mine, I did however yes commit a burglary, and Ive never denied it. I confessed, pled guilty and done my time, well so I thought. But, according to people like you, I owe society the rest of my life. And yes, the basic's are denied, how you can even deny that is beyond me, this forum has a thousand examples of it. It's not impossible, but pretty #### close.
     
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    People will be or become whatever they allow themselves to be or become. And just to clarify... I knew that wouldn't be your advice. My own advice to felons in general is to adapt and overcome in a positive way that serves them and their families.

    Example: I had been in the cleaning/restoration industry a lifetime ago. I had years of experience in it, including holding multiple industry certifications and being a Field Manager for the largest cleaning/restoration franchisor in the world. Then I caught a felony. Yes, it was my fault and yes, I felt terrible about it. I did my time, finished my parole successfully - all that. But with a felony on my record, no cleaning company anywhere is going to hire me and send onto a customer's property. The liability would be way too high for them, no matter what they felt for me personally.

    However, cleaning and restoration was something I genuinely liked doing, I was good at it and - it's what I knew. So I accepted that I was blocked from hiring onto any company in the industry that I loved. But I wasn't beaten. I worked crap jobs, then moved to other jobs that weren't so much crap but also weren't what I liked and I studied and saved what little money I could. Because I found that while I couldn't be hired back into my industry with a felony, there was absolutely nothing stopping from me from starting my own business in that industry. Instead of the employee, I became the employer. I had keys and alarm codes to multiple houses and businesses. People would call me and then simply leave their house unlocked the next day so I could go in and work, then lock up when I finished. Never had any problems at all and made better money in it than I ever made as an employee. And my employment interview was super quick and easy since I was my own boss.

    The point here is that people like you and me can potentially make a huge, life-changing difference not only for us, but also for felons in general and for the image/outlook that society has of felons in general. But we should never (in my own opinion) even hint at the idea of someone giving up and accepting a stereotype that society tries to push on us. Instead we rise above it, move on and do better for ourselves than they ever told us we'd be able to.

    Stay positive, brother. You've already beat the past.
     
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