What counts as On Duty Time? Passive income questions?

I know a boomer that's laughing at this thread but no I'm not one. I dont think most people here are either. Most boomers still carry flip phones for crying out loud and you think they're technically capable of navigating around 1990's type message forum? But yeah it's a stupid thread. Nobody cares what you do on your break.

 

Now right there, seems to be ignorance on so many levels.

 

To me there seems to be a difference between what you’ve brought up in this thread and the other thread you linked to. The person in the other thread stated they needed to be off from their driving job from 8 to noon every day, and to me that sounds more like a job and not just sitting back and clicking a couple things on your phone before carrying on about your day.

If you have a bad enough wreck they probably still won’t know if you’re trading stocks or whatever until they start digging into your financials when it’s time to pay the other parties involved.

 

Op, you are trying to create a legitimate argument to justify any or all work as passive outside the primary driving job, it won’t work.

These are not found in news articles, they are in the case documents.

I paid for the research through my lawyer as a foundation to write the policy on off hours work, you can get a subscription to LexisNexis and research it, lots of information there to read.

you miss the point, it isn’t about just one thing that can be used, it is a accumulation of issues.

again you are trying to build an argument that can’t stand up to regulatory scrutiny.

 

What ever you want to do, this has been going on for the last 70 plus years. It is about safety, not to satify someone's desire to do what they want.

Yes HOS comes into play in court, this is how drivers get caught when there is a fatality or serious accident. In the last 8 years there has been (from what I have been told) about 6 billion in payouts to "victims" of trucks. You come here to this region, there are almost as many billboards soliciting victims by lawyers as many as the cannabis billboards.

As for the rest, the people who come up with these rules and regulaitons are not law makers, they are bueracrats, they try to make boiler plate regulations to satify the need to have a job.

As for the younger generation, i think there is a lot of proof otherwise.

Just to tell you a little about my setup, I have to worry about this crap, all the time. It matters a lot when I have to make sure my drivers are working, the less crap like having to deal with falsified logs or outside work putting my company at risk, the more I can help them make money.

 

Man I wouldn't worry about it. Trade away. Trading is not LABOR. I would go nuts worrying about this stuff. I'm in my late 50's so guess I dont fit the boomer stereotype, can't see that as reason for thinking its a violation anyway. Heck they could come after a driver for playing video games.late into the night if they wanted to make that a factor. Guess that's a millennial thing. When I was a police supervisor a certain officer used to call me during the shift and ask.well what if this happens well what if that happens I would say just go handle the call, the overthinking was exhausting.. Lord, almost always turned out to be nothing thankfully. I wouldn't worry about it, I sure ain't...keep rolling down the highway. BTW I wish I had bought some Ely.Lilly, it's triple what it was a year ago.

And to add, wouldn't you think these trucking companies would get onto these YouTube truckers for making videos, after all, some are making money doing that too...