What do you ask your brokers? This is what I ask:

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by DaRoad, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    What you are ignoring is the 1.5% is added to what ever percent the broker is making which runs from my research at 20-60% so in reality the broker is making 12,000 or more. Not a bad haul for doing nothing but paying someone quick. You write like the broker is getting just 1500.00 What BS

    Here again you twist facts to fit your story I said 1,100.00 and in fact the load was triple brokered and I saw the credit card charge. Double and triple brokering is unecthical and dishonest, especially when you ask the borker if it's double brokerd. I always ask if a load is double brokered if i think it is.
    The incident I mention is within six months of getting my authority.
    You seem infatuated with panties do you like wearing them??


    I put enough effort in mine to know when I'm being taken advantage of and avoid it. Speaking of family business's it always seems that the second and following generations run them into the ground and change the original operating principals of the business. Look at wally world when old man sam was alive it was totally different. So In a family business I gauge it by the generation I'm dealing with.

    I am building a buseness model on this particular venture now.
    And as I have noticed you try and devert attention fom the original question
    WHY ARE BROKERS ENTITLED TO CREDIT???
    What do they do that makes them think they are worth more than the actcual worker doing the work? In over half the loads I haul they don't even know what they are moving till I ask. Their answer it's a legal load.

    The only thing these brokers have done correctly is by some twist of fate taken away most O/O's balls, fooling them into thinking they are the most imposrtant part of the equation.
     
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  3. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Anytime I talk with a new broker or sometimes a old one I ask:
    "How do you pay?" They always say something like 21-30 days, but generally quicker.
    I say: " I don't do thirty days any other options?"
    some will say they have quick pay and explain it.
    Which if I'm still not impressed I ask them to hold this load for 5min. till I check to see if it isn't the one I see double posted by another broker? That will sometimes bring them to my idea of payment arrangements I like.
     
  4. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Still wondering why your driving instead of brokering loads since you have it all figured out.:biggrin_2559:


    Who gives a #### if it's been brokered 50 times? As long as the load is something you want to haul and you like the rate who cares? Here's my point, they're not forcing you to take the load! If there has been too many hands in the cookie jar and the rate is crap DON'T TAKE IT!!!!!!!!! Your acting like they're stealing from you.:biggrin_2553:


    Ha, I'll be sure to watch out for that. Wal-Mart is a good example, they're practically bankrupt now after Sam died.:biggrin_2559::biggrin_2554:

    Why are you even worried about brokers? A guy like you can probably walk into a shipper like US Steel and demand they allow you to haul direct. I mean I know these shippers are just dying to deal with 200,000+ different truck drivers, as long as they ask "how they're doing" on the phone when they answer.

    And speaking of diverting attention, please answer my question. Why haven't you parked your truck and became a broker if that's where all the easy money is?:biggrin_25525:
     
  5. BrokeringBad

    BrokeringBad Light Load Member

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    I have a margin I am told to meet, but if it comes down to it, I've seen people break even on jobs, some try to keep 5 dollars so they just don't take a loss.
     
  6. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    I totally agree with the part that deadhead miles don't count. But as for the the quick pay, here is something that this industry doesn't understand.

    I have to pump at least $200-$500, each time a shipment is delivered, and each time that $200-$500 disappears, it takes days,weeks or months for it to come back. The cash flows out faster than it can flow in.
    Everything in this world having to do with transportation is paid up front, or at delivery point. Airplanes,Trains,Bus's, Taxi, Pizza,Mailman, But the trucker has to wait before he gets paid, or his fuel money back that we pay a FEE FOR? Big companies have runned us
     
  7. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    Who gives a #### if it's been brokered 50 times? As long as the load is something you want to haul and you like the rate who cares? Here's my point, they're not forcing you to take the load! If there has been too many hands in the cookie jar and the rate is crap DON'T TAKE IT!!!!!!!!! Your acting like they're stealing from you.

    This is why I have my broker authority and my trucking authority. Yea who cares what the broker makes because I can work that end too, just like I am the trucker that wonders what the broker makes, I can work that end too.
    If a lot of truckers got their broker authority than they wouldn't be worried about how much the broker made, instead they would make it them self's.
     
  8. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I heard a guy once say about asking questions, "How would you feel if you went to the doctor and he just handed you a pill without asking questions ?" His idea was that part of the purpose of questions is to put the broker at ease that you know what you're doing. I gotta admit that after the doc looks in my ear and takes my temp and asks some questions I do have a lot more confidence that pill will work. Made me wonder how many times some virus is going around. He knows what you got and just goes through the motions.
     
  9. BrokeringBad

    BrokeringBad Light Load Member

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    So, I have two loads, one guy picks up the phone when he arrives, calls when he leaves.

    Guy number two: dispatch emails me an hour before saying he'll be there in an hour or two, dispatch wont answer, wont give me the driver's number. So what can I do?
     
  10. brsims

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    Working on the flatbed side of things, I need a bit more info on the load. Specifically, I need length, width, and height. I need to know I can haul the load legally, or if I need to add permit costs in, before I even get involved in rate negotiations. Just one of the differences between running flatbeds and drybox/reefer.
     
  11. BrokeringBad

    BrokeringBad Light Load Member

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    Br, I agree, I'm just started in flatbed and I get a lot of questions, so I try to have all the information. That being said, what to do when nobody answers?
     
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