What do you consider decent gross for your trailer type?

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  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    To get an idea about what apples and oranges are, if comparing.
    It does not matter, if you are leased on or an independent, whether you have own customers or working with random or repetitive brokers.

    100 000 miles is all odometer miles for better calculations. If you don't need to work as much, just extrapolate. But not needing or not wanting to work more is not the same as not being able to work more.


    1. Dry Van. 2. Reefer 3. Regular flatbed. 4. Stepdeck: including heavy haulers 5. Car Hauler 6. Bull hauler. 7. Dump truck operator. 8. Tanker

    Dry van - from my own experience:
    Anything over $200K is an excellent result. An owner operator keeping as much half of it, after operational expenses, should not complain. Somewhere between $150 -180K per 80-100 all hub miles is where the average is (or should be?)

    What about other trailer types?
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Dry van: $180K - $200K is decent.
    Less than $150K - very poor.
     
  4. FoolsErrand

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    Well, dump trucks have a different odometer "shelf life" due to short runs so it wont scale. 300-400k on a straight dump is like 1-1.5 million on a otr tractor.

    Maybe you meant to put dump trailer.
     
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  5. starmac

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    IF, I ran 100,000 miles, it would actually be 101200 miles because my run is 1012 miles round trip, and if I didn't pull any oversize or ever haul anything back, have to tie down a load, or any of the loads exceeds 45,000 pounds, then I would gross 400,000 after insurance cost. I do not intend to run 100,000 miles though.
    Now, I do not pull my trailer, so I do not know until I pickup the load if I am pulling a dry van, reefer, flat, step, curtain van, lowboy or even a stretch.
     
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  6. TallJoe

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    Not necessarily. Can a dump truck o/o (for example, the ones that work on road constructions) make a living doing just that - dump truck operations throughout a year or even if it is seasonal, are the gross earnings sufficient to offset the winter time?
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    Not a dime, thinkng about miles makes you less money.
     
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  8. TallJoe

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    Is there any potential to do 100K miles a year at this rate and work type, if let's say, you wanted to? I mean to ask, if it is at all possible for an open deck to get such a high mileage workload at this rate to get to that $400K.
    For example, it is one thing to be able to run 3-4 dol a mile from April to December for 70K miles and then have to drop the trailer idle for 3 months and another, if you can actually get more work.
     
  9. TallJoe

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    Maybe I should have made it simpler by asking of what gross, for each type of trailer, should be considered as decent.

    100K Miles is a yearly workload unit for me. Gives me an idea of the fuel costs, the wear and tear on a truck and a man operating it. I think that 100K miles a year is a lot and almost too much but feasible, especially for a dry van or reefer and they can easily exceed that too.

    I am interested here, if other types of operations that get much higher rates on daily basis, are not limited to less work availble. So even if they are running 4 dol a mile, they would not be able to attain say... $300K or more gross.

    ....I just fixed the thread title. I think that mostly only dry vans and reefers exceed 100K miles per year.
     
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  10. Tug Toy

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    Our company flatbed trucks easily run 100k miles a year. Some as much as 130k a year.

    I try and do LESS than 100k miles but, I will be bumping that this year to keep my gross up compared to last years 80k miles. My minimum goal is to generate $200k after the carriers cut of %10 with the least amount of miles and effort.

    First year I came up short, then the last 2 years I meet or exceed my goals. On track this year to meet goals.

    The big question is how many weeks will I stay home? I try and spend a full 8 weeks (10 days) at the house and most weekends and any holidays.

    My opinion is, if you own and drive the truck you should be able to spend at a minimum, $100k a year however you chose.

    That would include payroll, dividends, taxes, health insurance, frivolous business expenses and retirement funding.

    Company drivers here make $50k to $70k with various work ethic levels. All of them drive more miles than I do. Most Work 50 to 48 weeks year. None of them wrench on there equipment during home time. They make %25 so, there gross would be $200 to $280k a year.

    My gross averages right in the middle of those figures.

    Hope I answered you question?
     
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  11. FoolsErrand

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    I know dumptruck guys that do very well but i think 100k miles is way more than they put on in a year. Much of their day is in line to load or unload. Theyre gonna work their pay more toward hourly, daily or per trip. Hourmeter might match up with otr but odometer wont.

    I understand what youre trying to figure but it'll be general data with tons of operators countering the trend. You can lose a fortune in any type of equipment with the right combination of inexperience and bad luck. You can make good money with any trailer type by knowing and exploiting load to truck ratios and putting yourself in the right place at the right time.

    I hauled a flatbed load yesterday from my normal zone in NC to my normal zone back in TN. Upon delivery i found out the cargo value was $320k on that one load, which explains why the rate was double of the normal lumber backhaul i am sent on. So for a market statistic divided among all trucks, its just a few drops into the whole flatbed pond. But for one truck its the difference between 100k gross vs 200k. Any trailer can make half the average pulling junk or double the average pulling jems. Your results will be unique to your saavy and your luck.
     
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