What happens if I roll a frameless dump

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Zacgehret, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I know this thread is about tipping them over. However I have seen drivers get hit with portable scales a heck of a lot more. Those things are easy to overload. I only remember one situation where a guy tipped one over. The owner fired him. The driver went that afternoon and got a job with another ready mix company.
     
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  3. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    Yeah, a lot of the time, they'll load in places which don't have scales, especially if it's a demolition dump or its doing dirt work.
     
  4. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    In the event that you get to join the "tip the tub club" make sure when you raise that tub nothing is on either side of you. About a 40ft radius is good. That would add injury to insult. Good luck tubber. Tub.jpg
     
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  5. Zacgehret

    Zacgehret Light Load Member

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    Well Im already running a short dump with a frame I love it but a few guys quit so he wants me to take one of the huge frameless ones I just really like this little guy
     
  6. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I would suggest you talk to your boss and see what happens if you do roll one. It's not an accident on your license but it is damage and it is an incident. And depending if anything else is involved it could be an expensive Insurance claim if it trailer falls and hits some piece of equipment or power lines or whatever else.

    But really I think I would concentrate on talking to the other drivers that go to that place. Ask them how they get in and out of there and if they've had some times that they thought they were going to flip or what they did or where they unload. The guys that have been there plenty of times probably have most of that already figured out and can be helpful.

    If there's somebody there with a loader or a dozer maybe they could grade you a flat spot if it's not concrete or asphalt that you're sitting on.
     
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  7. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    What happens? First you get to have that oh crap pucker moment, then after you calm down you call your boss. He calls someone like me and we stand it back up, he spends several thousand dollars fixing it and you learn to be much more careful about where you dump.

    It isn't a question of if, but usually when will it happen. Many times it is not your fault either, the ground gave way or product stuck in the body...all things you have little control over. As said above, always make sure the area around you is clear, last thing you want to do is come down on someone and hurt them.

    And yes, two wreckers may be overkill for this simple of a job but it was the site owner's request that we bring two.
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  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I know drivers that claim they have never rolled one over. I did make some aggregate deliveries using one for about a week. I have only seen one roll over. However I have seen several close calls. From my observations the thing that gets them rolled over is a lack of caution by the driver. A driver has to get out and unhook the tailgate. Then get inside and start the lift. Then at the apex the material is either on the ground or is backed up inside the dump. This means the driver must roll forward about 15 to 20 feet. Some idiots keep on rolling and a tire runs over something that starts shaking the body. I always just let the truck roll forward. Then I got out and quickly made sure all the material was out. I would then let the bed down and walk back a third time to close the tailgate. NEVER drive one of these trucks with the bed at apex. It is a sure way to find it on it's side.

    Edited to add something. The dump I was using had air driven hooks that closed. I should have remembered that. I got confused because I also drove a straight dump some and it had a chain along with the hooks. Always had to set that chain before dumping.
     
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  9. Woodchuck88

    Woodchuck88 Medium Load Member

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    You should never tip it, I’m sure there are many drivers on here who have never tipped. Use your brain if you have one. If your on level ground there is no way you are gonna tip it. If you do tip you deserve everything that’s coming to you.
     
  10. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    this talk about rolling trucks over, yeah i will avoid that..... however we have a driver that rolled a truck over a few years ago.... he still works there. apparently he has 7 points, so many points the company that handles risk management for our company sent a letter to both the driver and my boss..... one more point he is done.

    i guess what i am saying is that roll-overs are very bad but its not necessarily career suicide. i would venture to guess this driver's potential job choices are extremely limited..... most likely unemployable too many other places.

    i know this post is about dump trailer and we pull tankers where i work, still a roll-over is a roll-over. very bad no matter how, what, when, or why
     
  11. x1Heavy

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    Weawwy?

    Oooo.. we gots some cburching and emudicating to do today.
     
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