What has happened to ethics in the truck indus..or were there ever any ethics at all?

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  1. ShortBusKid

    ShortBusKid Heavy Load Member

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    I can't sing but next time I hear you I'll try to fart in tune!
     
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  3. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I'm confused, what does this have to with ethics? Sounds like you want loyalty.
     
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  4. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    You're absolutely right. He's not lamenting the loss of ethics, he's complaining that he's owed something as a reward because he's treated drivers" fairly". He thinks he's owed some kind of commitment cause he's always paid his carriers....and he apparently doesn't like competing with his competitors
     
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  5. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    Do you really need to have how a free market works explained to you?

    If you don't have a long term contract signed with your carrier, then you have nothing to whine about....

    Sounds to me like you don't like losing your customer, the carrier. You're job as the broker is to go to your other customer, the shipper, and explain the market to him.....
     
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  6. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    Two terms.

    Contract freight, and spot market freight.

    As far as "ethics" goes, spot market is a load by load deal. It's not unethical to change the terms from one load to the next. Whatever agreement we had ended with the completion of the load, this is why the next load will need a new rate agreement, or rate confirmation....

    If you want long term commitment then write a long term contract, you'll need to find somebody whose interested in negotiating a long term deal with you....

    Get out there and start making sales calls.
     
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  7. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    All a broker needs is to earn "a good living", say $200/day net on all the loads he moves per 14 hour day, right?
    I mean, that's what they like us drivers to accept.
     
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  8. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    Apparently, he believes it is "unethical" for a guy with a truck to make any more than a meager livelihood.
     
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  9. FairPlayLLC

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    The thing I have noticed, and this is from LONG experience, is that broker agents are "trained" to believe that it only costs about 65 cents per mile to run a truck ... Now... if ALL you are counting is FUEL and nothing ELSE, that's true, for the most part... Of course, as O/O's we all know that Fuel, whilst being the largest expense individually, it is by no means the ONLY expense... by the time I factor in ALL of my overhead, including paying MYSELF a meager 45 cpm, my overhead runs about $1.87 per mile... when you tell that to an agent, they think you're blowing smoke at them because they've been TOLD otherwise... they believe they DESERVE 35-70 percent of linehaul due to their "massive" overhead.... The reason MY company decided to get Broker Authority, is because many shippers won't even talk to a small carrier and I'm sick and tired of $4 p/mile freight being waved under my nose for $1.05 p/m or LESS (Florida market)... Agents think that being prompt on payment, you know, as required BY LAW, entitles them to a large percentage... We get better pay to the trucks we broker to, and take a modest 10%... half of THAT goes to the factor so we can quick pay... so... on a $1000 linehaul from the shipper, we make a whopping $50... FAIR, FAIR, FAIR! But then, being a dirty-rotten, low-down trucker for so many years, that's the only way I know how to treat my brothers & sisters who are getting greasy on a pre-trip every morning...
     
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  10. 2tonetony

    2tonetony Bobtail Member

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    That was his quote he shoulded have qouted higher and not agreed to it
     
  11. 2tonetony

    2tonetony Bobtail Member

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    Well i understand that you seem to know everything, the guy had sighned a contract for these lanes and now is going against his contract, so I do have something to whine about. I have a carrier that is a liar, disloyal, and a ##### to the highest bidder. But hey, its us brokers with the bad name and all you drivers are angels right??? The guy breached his contract what do you have to say about that oh wise one
     
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