What Have You Done As An O/O To Prepare For "CARB-2014"?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Working Class Patriot, May 12, 2013.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    so its not just a 1,000mi limit for anyone, just historical?
     
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  3. Working Class Patriot

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    IIRC....Even out of state contractors....Like Las Vegas paving can obtain that exemption....It's also "per unit" IIRC as well...And based on the amount of iron LV Paving owns ....They can work in Cali.....365.....:biggrin_2559:
     
  4. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    I just wish CARB would make up it's mind....When this thing started....I went to a meeting sponsored by the former CDTOA...The CARB reps told us that a pre-'04 could get retrofitted and be compliant...That was in early '05....Then in '08 CARB told us that you had to drop in a new engine instead of just the retrofit.....

    I bought a new rig in '10 EPA '07 compliant...A few months after I registered it with "Clean Trucks" for the ports....CARB sent me an email stating my rig would be compliant until 2020......Now they're telling me I can run to 2023....

    As much as the industry is confused.....CARB is more so......:biggrin_25526:
     
  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Enjoy your butt filter. It's good for the environment and "okay" for you.
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Ports aside, the issue is a federal one - what will the feds do to prevent the state of California imposing regulations that can be only put on domestic trucks (California registered). Even though the EPA has agreed with some of the CARB regs, it does not have the power to allow California to regulate interstate commerce as CARB regs are doing. There are agreements in place between all the states that say basically California will accept another state's vehicles when the vehicle follows the federal regulations. There are only a few agreed on exceptions (bridge laws and permits to operate oversize/overweight loads) but there isn't anything about the state agreeing to emissions. On top of that, Congress can end this issue by forcing the enforcement of their constitutional mandate by holding back road funding to California.
     
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  7. Florida Playboy

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    Yeah right like that will happen. If Washington DC has not intervened yet I doubt they ever will.
     
  8. tomkatrose

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    The 1,000 mile a year exemption is for any class 8 truck. It's for "limited use" vehicles. It is still subject to the same insurance, CHP BIT and other requirements to be registered for use, except the CARB rules. If you register the tractor as a "historical vehicle" (25 years or older), it is exempt from the CHP BIT requirements but still subject to CARB unless you register it with them for the 1,000 mile per year exemption.

    The easiest way around CARB (although it might impact your "for hire" status) is to put a fridge, inverter, microwave and porta-potti in it, have it VIN verified and register it as an RV in CA. RV's are exempt from CARB rules.

    Believe me, after I sold all the Volvos, I've been on the phone a bunch with CARB, CHP and the DMV to find the options available. If you are out of state, the 1,000 mile rule doesn't help you if you travel out of CA because it goes by total miles for the year because you have to register your odometer reading. Gosh, if your odometer breaks and doesn't go over 1,000 miles in a year...
     
  9. RedForeman

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    I'm sure your state has an agency for that too. You just haven't found it yet. Don't worry, they'll call you.

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  10. Working Class Patriot

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    So a Condo-cab is exempt from CARB regs?
     
  11. Stump

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    All state and government trucks do not have to be compliant. The firemen and emergency trucks complained that the trucks shutdown mid use to re-gen, so they are exempt. Makes sense, don't it. Also, all AG trucks that run only in the state are exempt to. That's why I don't care about there scare tactics. I won't worry about it until they put a gun to my head.

    If I can register my truck at DMV with Cali plates, and have all my permits to run 48 states, and CARB gives me a ticket that says my trucks no good, I'll sue the DMV for taking my money when CARB says no good.
     
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