What if your ELD stops working in the middle of your trip?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by valerchekk, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. tech10171968

    tech10171968 Medium Load Member

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    Um, yeah, that's what I said.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Aha. I read it is 8 days of filled out logs for backup. I see you didn't say that now. Oops. :)
     
  4. pmdriver

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    Actually I was a paper logger for many decades and had to be a caretaker for a aging parent and got this wild hair of going back as a owner op and am looking at all the information so I stay legal.
     
  5. valerchekk

    valerchekk Light Load Member

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    Hmm...interesting. So, if my e-logs were stored locally on my iphone and I did not print them out every day and my ELD goes down, I now have to "reconstruct" previous 7 days? What does "reconstruct" mean? Doest it mean that I have to create 7 days of paper logs using "as far as I remember correctly" kind of logic? I don't know about rest of you guys, but the amount of gigabytes of memory in my head is very limited. And I don't normally remember what time exactly I did a 30 min break 6-7 days ago for instance. If I "reconstruct" past 7 days using the data source that was given to me by mother nature (which wasn't manufactured in China by the way), and then dot officer finds that some records do not match, can I still be cited for that ?

    Now before you guys start telling me that I should have backed up, printed or saved e-log data because ELD apps are not reliable, I wanted to say a couple of things:

    1. Please show me the law that requires driver to do so;
    2. Garmin E-Log, the app that I was using, is 100% FMCSA compliant, and it says the data could be safely stored locally. I guess all questions regarding the functionality of Garmin ELD should be addressed to Garmin.
    3. And lastly, if ELD apps are not reliable, why in the world the government is forcing us to use them?
     
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  6. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Wouldn't they be backup to the cloud
     
  7. valerchekk

    valerchekk Light Load Member

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    I am sorry, but what "cloud"? The one that you normally see in the sky?

    Garmin says that all data is stored locally. Again, this device is 100% government compliant.
     
  8. Brandt

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    I guess that the chance you take then. You can always switch to another system. I thought the data had to be backed up. Seems like a bad idea to only have the logs on you phone.

    What about having 6 month of logs backed up? What if you lose your phone ? I thought they all had to be backup to the cloud. You need the 6 months of logs data available for D.O.T plus if their was ever an accident they would want to see 6 months of logs.
     
  9. pmdriver

    pmdriver Road Train Member

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    Can you hook them things to a computer as they are working to keep all the data backed up, or like using them cards on dash cams pull a card out and download?
     
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  11. pmdriver

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    The gooberment is made up with rule makers to make rules to fund more rules, it is up to the ruled to figure out how to make it work properly. dang another conspiracy.
     
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