What Is A Fair Cut For The Broker?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Renegade92, Jan 7, 2023.

  1. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    False: They are not necessary. O/O’s have manufactured a false necessity out of them.

    If people pounded doors & brokered their own deals, they would not have to hire a middle man “Broker” for acquire work for them.


    Let go of the past. Stop being an irregular route carrier. Do the leg work to find your own freight, get out & back rates, be a profitable business.

    As a business owner, you have no business complaining that another business is making a profit by providing you a service. Run your #### business. If you don’t like brokers, stop hiring them to do a job you can do yourself.

    Afraid of rejection, or unwilling to put in the leg work. Hire a salesman to go out & sell your services. Rethink your business model, offer services that others don’t. Get away from the gravy freight that everybody else wants.

    Chase money instead of wants. Take on work that pays, work that you can charge a premium for. Stop limiting yourself to providing same service as every other Tom, Dick, & Harry.
     
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  3. wichris

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    Obvious that no ones new years resolution was to quit whining about brokers.
     
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  4. Renegade92

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    Is the "quick pay" option, required to be offered to an OO, or is it at the discretion of the broker to make it an option at all?

    Also, what is the typical interest fee charged to an OO, when the quick pay option is utilized?
     
  5. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Well, trucker math say's 3% is only 3% but real math(if paid in 30 days)is 36%
     
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  6. Renegade92

    Renegade92 Light Load Member

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    I understand that idea, in theory. But in application, it doesn't seem reasonably possible.

    In order for that to work, I would think that one would need to find a customer with enough freight to keep the OO's 1 truck busy, but not have a workload that exceeds that OO's 1 truck capacity. Because if that is the case, I would think the business would rather deal with just 1 party (a broker), than multiple parties (multiple OOs), to get its freight moved. Assuming that what I have said is true, there aren't enough of these hypothetical "only-1-truck-needed" businesses to go around. I would think, there are very few.

    The broker seems unavoidably necessary.

    BUT, I could be wrong. Have you been able to secure your own loads on a sustainably regular basis, without the assistance of a broker?
     
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  7. Renegade92

    Renegade92 Light Load Member

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    Can you please re-explain. It is typically 3% per what exactly? Day, week, etc.? How did you get 36%?
     
  8. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    3% today instead of 100% in 30 days is 36% annual
     
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  9. MacLean

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    One is 5.2% and the other is 5.5%. You’d park over that bad math?
     
  10. Renegade92

    Renegade92 Light Load Member

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    Interesting observation. Any idea why the brokers for those carriers don't just push that hypothetical load for $1,000 everywhere, instead of $2,500 on one platform, and then $1,000 on another?
     
  11. Renegade92

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    So, an OO can settle for 97% of their pay today, or wait a few weeks to get 100%?

    So 3% over a month, is equivalent to an APR of about 36%.

    That is a pretty steep charge. Is it common, for a broker to not be paid by the customer/shipper?
     
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