What is an acceptable rate (cpm) for a New Driver?

The entry barrier grew larger? In what freaking world did that happen?

In all the ridiculously bad info I have read on here over the years, that one is so blatantly wrong it makes all the rest look like truth.

300 buck filing fee is the huge entry barrier today. That's larger than convincing the government that you being granted authority for a lane and product is good for the national economy? Really?!

 

MacDaddy and STexan dropping wisdom here.

I make 40 with less than 2 yrs. I run hard. I am happy with the money I make and enjoy the lifestyle on most days. I can go weeks at a time without talking to anyone at the company. It's almost like they aren't there. Livin the dream, I say.

 

There is a bit of a conundrum ... carriers want/need drivers with good PSP's and clean driving records. Who has good PSP's and clean driving records? Outstanding experienced drivers, and completely inexperienced new CDL holders.

Guess what. There are probably 5 "qualified" new CDL holders for every one well experienced driver with good history. With this reality, driver wages will never escalate rapidly in the foreseeable future. It's easier [and cheaper] to hire a new CDL holder who can piss clean one time, pay them peanuts for the opportunity to get out of the $400/wk job into a $800/wk job, and hope for the best. If they don't work out, there's 4 more waiting to try out for the same position ("golden opportunity") that might be worth the 4 weeks of crappy training that they are too clueless to realize until they get out in the real world ... 1 in 4 will survive to solo graduation, and probably 1 in 3 of those will survive past 12 months and make a real "career" of truck driving long[er] term.

 

My personal "good ol' days" are here!!!

 

Interesting thought there.
Thanks for a new view.

 

I wasn't even born yet during the regulated trucking era so I have no first hand knowledge, but to me it sounds liking gov't regulated trucking was the very epitome of socialism. As Marx said (Karl, that is, not Groucho) "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

It blows my mind that so many drivers, who are libertarian in so many respects, actually want to hand total control of their industry back to the gov't.

 

There was a fifth brother??? Who knew!!!

 

No I wouldn't call it "socialism". In short, It was like a trucking company had to "get rate approval" if you wanted to haul a new commodity and/or across a new route. It took time, required money and connections, etc and was very restrictive, and time consuming. About the only thing that did not require prior approval was farm products, vegetable, fruit, etc. as these were "exempt".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Carrier_Act_of_1980

 

Your right the mega-crap companies will not volunteer to go hourly because the only reason they have grown to the size they have is by cheating drivers with the the piece work system. That is not the question.

Would profits vanish if drivers were paid hourly? Absolutely not. You could only contended that if the only profit a trucking company could make was in cheating drivers.

Would driver payroll decline? First you cannot have both of your assertions together. If your assert payroll would then decline profits would increase. It is apparent you have not thought this out. Payroll would increase since their is no more free work. Trucking companies would be responsible for managing their business just like other companies do. Turnover would drop, and safety would increase.

 

So you now agree with me that their are fewer companies after deregulation.

The reason some companies failed after deregulation and others prospered was the companies that were willing to cheat drivers succeeded with lower cost of operation.

Don't fool yourself. Their was plenty of independent truck drivers in the 60's and 70's. Getting a truck and starting a business was less of a problem than.

No independent truckers making coin in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Don't fool yourself and everybody else by rewriting history.

What is the problem with you then? Others did in that era.

I know several teamsters retired from that era all living on good retirements. I know none that have been screwed out of their retirement.

So you are saying the value of your company is $300? Good argument.