What is either the driver or truck lacking here?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TomCougar, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    I wish someone would tell my log truck it shouldn't get stuck, I would quit carrying chains.
    That said mine does have a locker and gets better traction than that one appears to get.
    Now that old mack may or may not have had a working interlock.
    It may also have had one and the driver didn't know how to activate it, some of those old macks did not have a switch, you had to tap the brake to lock the interlock in. I do not know if lockers were even available for those old top load mack rears either.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Nondriver. A supertrucker would actually be able to drive.
     
  4. TomCougar

    TomCougar Light Load Member

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    Cougar was a soldier for seven years and a field recovery operator. Mired trucks I knew well. Lost many pup tent hours of sleep to them. I'm no stranger to the woods and soupy terrain.

    Swine hauler, direct your aim, aim high, to those air force guys who never saw mud.
     
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  6. Long FLD

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    @TomCougar do a search on YouTube for Russian logging trucks. There are tons of great videos. Most are using old military trucks with power to the front axle and they get into some extreme situations.
     
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  7. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    How much driving off road you done?

    no need for that last comment either.

    Sometimes trucks simply just don’t have enough power to get up a hill and need a pull or push . Especially an old truck like that.

    he was obviously locked in, did you see one wheel spinning? Or do you not know the difference between a open diff/ cross lock/ diff lock?

    I used to have to back up hills like that in a mixer to keep the wheels on the ground.

    regardless driver was good, I’d love to see most drivers on here start from a dead stop on a hill like that in a manual with a weak ### motor.

    I used to have a 6x6 mixer. You could drive through some #### in that thing lol. Just pin it and watch the mud fly and you’re creeping through it at 2 mph.
     
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  8. Swine hauler

    Swine hauler Medium Load Member

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    Well I'm sure the fella in the video didn't have the full cooperation and resources of the U.S military at his disposal. And he probably didn't have 20 service members and a commanding officer giving orders and instructions to help him succeed.

    It looked to me as though he was going to have to rely on his own talent, Intellect, ingenuity and the cunning use of snatch block and a stout stump, with, maybe, the help of a single swamper. His success would be his own. And hard won. And no medal for valaintry I'll warrant.

    In my book, and in my neighborhood he would be respected. He has a hard, grueling job and not much in the way of assets to get it done. I don't think your experience in "recovery" ( as one member of a whole squadron) compares in any way, shape, or form to his daily struggles.

    "Aim high, Aim to the Air Force who never spent a day in the mud" you tell ME.

    How about YOU not aim so low.... So low as to insult their integrity and intellect by telling them they should only being driving donkeys and llamas. That's what burns my ### about your comments.


    ANY HONEST WORK IS HONORABLE WORK....

    You would do well to remember that...... soldier.

    Carry on.....
     
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  9. REO6205

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    Just for the record, he received a warning with infraction points for his statement. Normally we'd edit out a statement like that but I wanted to leave it in so everyone could see what we're dealing with here.
    The next time he gets into racial stereotyping like that he's gone.
    I thought the truck driver did a fine job. You could tell he knew when to let up on it and when to ask for the power.
    That was one steep and sloppy pull. We'd probably have a Cat pulling and a skidder or a Cat pushing at the same time on ground like that. He obviously didn't have resources like that and just did the best he could. Not many people could have gone that far without tearing something up.
    Thanks to everybody who commented favorably on the post. You guys know.
     
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  10. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    Let’s see... 40 year old 200hp truck vs brand new 650hp truck?

    I doubt op could even fire that truck up and run it down the road let alone get as far as that driver.

    if you gave that driver a new truck spec’d for logging that would be light work.
     
  11. FoolsErrand

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    Note the red clay ground. When saturated that stuff is exactly like walking up a greased mirror. You dont need to sink in, its tire butter.

    As was said, If he had full locks he'd have never got the truck to steer, it would plow right over the edge straight ahead with the steers at full lock passenger. And that steep with that much overhung load... If he had traction the truck would probably wheelie anyhow. A 6x6 would fare a lot better chance. Even just having the front diff for ballast.

    They probably need to rig a snatch block in the top corner by a stump, and have some other vehicle tug on a bull rope from above to get the front to pivot around the switchback. If the nose would come around he coulda stayed in it. I dont envy the guy. Easy spot to flop it and play pickup sticks in your flip flops.
     
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