What is Werner's idle policy???

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  1. Viking84

    Viking84 Light Load Member

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    -26 degrees..Ouch...:biggrin_2551:
    I will break out my little coleman stove in those type cases...
     
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  3. Roadmedic

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    Watch the ventilation.

    My APU froze up at 5:15 that morning. The truck only idles 4 minutes and shuts off. It was 19 in the truck when I started trying to to warm it and defrost the windshield.
     
  4. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    I read your situation with that. That's gotta be frustrating as all helll.
     
  5. Roadmedic

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    3rd time this week. I run the anti gel as required.

    It took over an hour to get the inside of the truck warm enough to exist.

    Probably wore the starter out.
     
  6. Grok

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    Idle percent is the time spent idling divided by the total time the engine runs. So if you drive 10 hours and idle 7 that would be 7/17=41%.

    Any flame type heater is against Werner policy. Any portable heater is in violation of FMCSA rules.
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    The problem concerning portable heaters is that it is not fully explained. You can have the 12 volt heater and it is portable. I imagine you can even use a small electrical heater to supplement when the apu is being used.

    I see that a propane heater might be a problem. It is flame producing and the gas is explosive. These are probably the type the FMCSA is more aimed at.
     
  8. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Wait, that can't be right, because the better you are at keeping the engine off, the EVEN LESS time you have to idle by percent.

    So if you leave it off for 23 hours then idle for 1 hour, that would be 100%.
     
  9. Grok

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    Electric heaters are allowed if they are bolted down (non-portable).

    Yes, idling one hour and down 23 would be 100%.
    1/1=100%

    To lower idle percentage, you must spend more hours driving than idling. Number of hours in the day is not in the calculation.
     
  10. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Let me try not to be outraged for a moment, in case I'm misunderstanding something.

    You're on a 34 hour restart. You want to be a good employee and help your company out. You sit for 10 hours and would like to idle for about 10 minutes before the next 10 hours.

    Please, calculate that for me by the policy. I'm interested. This may be the single most informative piece of information yet on this forum about Werner.
     
  11. Grok

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    The thing to remember is that this a cumulative calculation. Not a daily one. If you normally idle very little, you will have idle time available during your 34. Engine downtime has no effect on the idle percentage. Just think of it this way... Of the total time the engine has ran, what percentage was at idle.
     
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