thats not hotshot work your doing if I showed up 4 days later after I picked up I'd be ran off and never haul for that customer again!!!
hotshot work is picking up at anytime day night what ever and run it non stop until it drops. If there calling for a hotshot someone is loosing big $$$$$$$ and need it now!!!!!
I'm hauling for Exxon Mobil right now got the call at 3am need you at the main plant by 4am we have a unit down picked it up run in from Beaumont to Baton Rouge,la now I'm waiting for them to rebuild this gear box than right back to the plant I'm getting $1,750 for the run and $100 a hour wait time I've been here just over two hours now and was told it maybe 4pm when there done, so legally you can't do it but that's what they pay for get it there fast.........
What is with rates???
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Alf24, May 28, 2013.
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Hot Shot loads are just that, hot freight that needs to be there NOW!!!!!
problem is, they are classifying 40' float trailers and goose necks as "hot shot" trailers, so people automatically think if it goes on a trailer like that, it is a hot shot load. Most of the time, it is exactly what bayou is talking about. The crap on Shipping Wars is just cheap freight that needs ot get shipped by someone (99% of the time it is not a company) and as you see, Marc is also bidding against the little guys, just like we do in the real world. And most of the time he looses because they drop it to $1.50 mile and you can't operate on that.
As for Hot Shot stuff, i had thought about getting rid of the truck and using the 3500 and moving freight, but i doubt I would make any $$ doing it up here. Oil field is where the money is at, but the problem is too many guys that have no business doing it, have gotten into that line of work. I can't tell you how many guys I see with a rotted out mid-80's dually and trailer with holes in the floor moving a pump or cooling rack in texas. Sure makes it hard for a guy with legal equipment and proper professional attitude to get the job. Juan will move it for $500..... when it should be paying $1,500 for a midnight runMJ1657 Thanks this. -
One customer I have won't load a one ton anymore because DOT stops them more and 50% of the time are put out of service or have blow outs at night and the truck stop guys don't do 16" tires so there screwed.
I know of one load that ACME did the driver stopped for the night because he was out of hours, after making 20 calls and couldn't get him on the phone they called the police and reported the load stolin few hours later they found him at a rest stop 22 miles from where it dropped.
When they call me they get a driver that can do the job not show up at the plant in shorts flip flops and haven't shaved in 10 years, most drivers don't even know what a TWIC card is and I just redone mine so I've had that five years. I carry everything in my truck a job sight should need steel toes,nomex,hard hat,safety glasses,ear plugs,reflective vest, even a h2s monitor that's hotshot work and why I get the money I do. -
Loneranger: You got that right!
McGoo: Friday's have become my worst. I am scared to take a Thursday short haul and opt to take a Thursday long haul just because freight has been so bad for past 8 wks or so on Friday. I did great today but that was because everyone was in a good area. -
If you ask a dot officer why they stop hot shots more, he or she will tell you it is because they are easier to inspect. It is easier to see under them and what not. I have had many drivers question DOT and get that same response (including my very honest dad who drives a 1 ton with 48 ft gooseneck). I believe it is also because other drivers give the rest of them a bad name. My semi trucks never get inspected and my hot shots always do. It is rare that they are put out of service. I have maybe 2 per year. We had a guy tell us he wouldn't load hot shots because his wife left him for a hot shot driver. I responded with "what if your next wife left you for a freightliner driver...would you say no more freightliners". Some of my drives have TWIC and some do not. I tell them not to bother, because the loads pay no better and it usually takes to long to go through that anyway and I have to hear griping while trying to load other drivers who have no load.
Now I am glad the point of Hot Shot has been brought up. Historically Hot Shot meant two different things: oilfield HOT HOT HOT and usual small freight and then there was the meaning you speak of that is basically the same except not oilfield (btw I have heard that oilfield will boom and then die leaving drivers with nothing to do...heard this about all the hot spots from many drivers).
So now the meaning of Hot Shot as is viewed by most everyone, has changed. This is especially evident if you ever see a load posted on a load board requesting a hot shot or a flatbed hot shot. This means that they think that a hot shot can move for $1.00 per mile or less. I explain to them that hot shots can move for less than a semi but not a whole $1 less. My trucks are all bigger with apportioned plates. My general rule is $2.20 for semi and $1.90 for hot shot. It has worked for about 7 years at whatever rate I set. And of course that is a minimum everywhere we go. No backhauling although I have a feeling we might have to start with the way things are this year. On occasion I will get a broker who says they need a hot shot because it is a tight fit and then they are shocked to learn we have 48 ft trailers but are classified as hot shot because limited on weight and pulled by a one ton. And then 1 in 100 will actually think old school and say something like "I don't know if I can afford to pay for a hot shot." We would love $3 freight as long as we could move it legally. I do not allow illegal driving, and wouldn't do so even for $10 per mile. I am surprised you are still doing good, happy for you but surprised. I say that because until 2 years ago we got a good bit of freight that was rush and paid well for it. That almost never happens now. The most rushed freight is would be team freight with plenty of teams around or normal transit with no time to spare freight.
And as for the OD I have noticed that too. We just started OD about 2 years ago obviously because freight was getting bad. Sometimes we will get good money, but most of the time we pass it up because it is paying regular rate with like $75 for permits. We use a permit service so I just say $50 per permit plus $100. And then start out at $2.70 (for barely wide) and go up from there which is good for my guys who are limited on weight. -
It's not hard to find $3.50/mile loads for mini floats and $4/4.25/mi freight for semis in Texas. Do I haul 1,200 mile loads at $4.25/mi sometimes but not every month. My all miles on my truck as of today is $3.38/mi yes all miles and I do lots of dead heading.
You do what I call expedited freight where they need it fast but don't want to pay me to move it at twice the price. -
I would describe it as freight that needs to be delivered in normal time but is small. So if it is a 600 mile run then they expect it there within the next day or 2. That kind of thing. Sometimes they do not mind if we put anything with it and sometimes they do. Like I said, I do not see much drive straight thru expedited. You are the first person I have talked to who averages 3.38 with deadhead. So I hope you do feel blessed. And somehow the bad economy and bad freight times have been good to you.
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Also I'd like to say I think the end of trucking for me is coming not sure how soon but with EOBRs ill be done I couldn't make but half the money I do now!! -
At the end of the quarter I know I will be over my magic number for all miles driven. I just run what I'm given & always say thank you to my dispatcher. I went to Denver twice in November, didn't complain & have been I-5 only ever since. What I'm doing works for me & I don't plan to change it aslong as it keeps working. -
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