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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BRATSMAN2009, May 14, 2013.

  1. Elendil

    Elendil Heavy Load Member

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    Exactly. Think of it this way. How great could a company be if they are hiring dozens (if not hundreds) of people every week? Why would a company need to do that unless people are leaving all the time? All companies have some rate of turnover, The best companies often don't advertise for drivers. They rely on word of mouth or people who are ambitious enough to seek them out. There is a great resource called the phone book. Get off the couch and start visiting companies in person. Assuming you can speak clearly and present a professional appearance, you might be very surprised at the results.
     
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  3. BRATSMAN2009

    BRATSMAN2009 Bobtail Member

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    The recruiter has all my background and it comes up but it shows dismissed. and they said no cause of the drug charge.. does anyone know what would come up if I had my record sealed when someone did a background check.
     
  4. The Space Cowboy

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    Okay then by all means please supply us a list of small carriers that hire newbies right out of school with brand new CDLs and no experience, provide training, and at the same time pay more as well than mega carriers that also have training departments? Oh, wait a minute; smaller carriers that pay more than mega carriers also have much higher minimum standards. Oops.

    I concur with this advice, as this guy is blowing wind up you newbie's behinds big time. Indeed, if anyone believes that smaller carriers will somehow provide training for inexperienced newbies and at the same time pay them more, then I have a bridge in London for sale I'd like to sell you. And I have no doubt this guy believes every word he is saying as well.
     
  5. The Space Cowboy

    The Space Cowboy Light Load Member

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    Uhm could it be because most newbies don't make it past their first year for a variety of reasons.

    Of course, all companies have some rate of turnover, but especially training companies that hire hundreds of trainees a year will, of course, suffer much higher turnover rates than companies that don't do any training whatsoever simply due to the fact that most trainees entering the trucking industry don't make it past the first year for a myriad of reasons. Not to mention that the vast majority of drivers who don't make it for whatever reasons will usually blame the training companies instead of themselves for their failures as well. Indeed, it's human nature.

    And they also require much higher minimum standards to get hired on as well, which newbie drivers right out of school are unqualified for.

    Are you advising newbies to waste their time trying to find something that doesn't exist? That's the way it appears to me. I'm all for giving newbies advice, but sending them on wild goose chases isn't advice. Meanwhile, I would advise newbies to pay their dues and learn as much as they can until they acquire the experience necessary to qualify for a better job.
     
  6. Elendil

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    Most of the reasons have to do with the poor working conditions and sub-standard pay supplied by most of the botom feeder starter companies. New drivers would last much longer in better working conditions



    Sure, some new drivers aren't cut out for trucking and will leave in the first year. But the number would be way lower if not working in the poor conditions that exist at the bottom feeders.



    Some do. But many will hire new drivers, or do you presume to know the hiring standards for all 400,000 trucking companies in the U.S.?


    People like you are why the myth of "paying your dues" continues to be perpetuated. There is a difference between working your pay up the ladder as far and pay and runs goes and working for slave wages with companies that have no interest in whether or not you succeed and in fact actually prefer drivers to not to remain long term. Certainly there are small companies that will hire a new driver that provide decent pay and decent working conditions. Because you might not be ambitious enough to seek them out doesn't mean they don't exist. There is absolutely no reason for a new driver to feel they must hire on with one of the 20 or even the 50 biggest companies. I didn't need to and with some hard work there are a lot of drivers that don't need to. They simply do it because it is the path of least resistance.
     
  7. StayBusyTrucker

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    Slave wages? If I remember my schooling slaves didn't get a pay check.There is nothing wrong with starting with a company that trains you and pays you I make decent money for working hard. It's like that good ole say 'Truck drivers want alot of pay, be home evernight and run as little as possible' but lets get real thats not reality.
     
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  8. The Space Cowboy

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    So according to you, there are shortcuts available somewhere if you only take the time to find them? In other words, drivers with brand new CDLs right out of school with zero experience shouldn't have to undergo training to learn how to drive a truck and to learn the job. Indeed, there is no need to pay some dues in this industry, as they are automatically qualified to get great jobs right out of CDL School, even though they can barely operate a truck.

    All right...which companies are going to hire brand new newbies right out of school with zero experience and provide them the same money and working conditions as experienced drivers that have already paid their dues get? Moreover, if there are indeed such companies in existence, could you please name a few of them and also explain how they are miraculously able to stay in business?

    You sound to me like one of those newbies that failed during the training process and instead of blaming yourself for your own failure; you blamed the training company that provided you the opportunity to be trained instead. Apparently, you also think training wages and working conditions should be comparable to drivers with many years of driving experience under their belts. Indeed, because they just didn't give it to you and made you have to earn it, it must be their fault that you failed, and, of course, just like in every other industry, there shouldn't be any dues to pay. It should just be handed over to you. Okay, I get it. Yeah right! Give me a break. Are you for real?

    Please explain some of these poor working conditions for us in detail you keep referring to, since most of the training trucks that I see out on the road have larger and more comfortable sleepers. What exactly are those poor conditions you are talking about? Are they made to load and unload the trucks by hand or something? Are they forced to drive not only their shifts, but also the trainer's shifts too? Do they actually have to do pre-trips and post trips? Or is it they are just not allowed to go home every night or every weekend? Indeed, what exactly does those substandard working conditions consist of that only newbies as opposed to all other drivers must endure? We all need to know this.

    Really! Oh okay then name what companies are hiring still wet behind the ears brand new newbies right out of CDL School that can barely operate a truck, providing them with experienced driver wages while undergoing training, allowing them to go home every night or at least on weekends, and then giving them brand new trucks to begin their brand new driving careers with and to pay their dues? Dude...are you for real? Really? Are you sure?

    Oh okay...I didn't realize that the trucking industry is different from every other industry, as apparently according to you there are no dues to pay. Okay, it's only a stupid myth. I guess if you say so. Whatever!

    So according to you a lot of companies are in business strictly to screw over drivers instead of turning a profit. Indeed, according to you in the trucking industry as opposed to all other industries, the employees are not the trucking companies' most valuable resource.

    Also according to you, there are tons of companies out there that will pay newbies experienced company driver wages, let them go home every night or at least on weekends while they are being trained, and put them in a brand new trucks once their training is complete to let them pay their dues.

    Man I wish I had met you before I got into the trucking driving industry. It sure would have made my life a whole lot easier, and I'm sure the way you advise it is the exact same way you experienced it too. Yeah right! By the way, what planet do you live on? Is it Earth?

    I know I'm beginning to sound redundant, but anyway name a few of them. Also, please explain how they are able to keep the trucks rolling and the doors open at the same time as well.

    Are you a comedienne? Is this a joke? Because you got me laughing!

    You mean a prospective driver. Okay...I get it; you just don't like large and successful companies. Whoopee. Nevertheless, the larger companies are also usually the training companies simply because they have more resources and thus can afford the luxury of also becoming a training company, which isn't cheap by any means. In any event, if you are getting into the trucking industry there is just no escaping going to work for one of these LARGE training companies for the vast overwhelming majority of drivers, as there is simply no other available alternative regardless of what you idiotically claim. It's a necessary evil and it is part of paying your dues and gaining experience. By the way, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and name some of these small trucking companies you speak of that provide great wages and better working conditions?

    Oh sure...you are super trucker and been super trucker since the instance you received your CDL. We know...you are just better than everyone. Yawn.

    By the way, what you mean hard work? I thought the object of your screed was to avoid hard work while enjoying the same benefits and great treatment as experience professional drivers?

    Actually, the vast overwhelming majority of people simply do it because it is the only path available. No one escapes training and paying dues unless they apparently live in a dream world like you do.
     
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