What is your rate as a IC not a O/O leased on

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Tama Mai Hawaii Nei, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    For the first time in my life as an O/O i am grossing around 2,000.00 a day PLUS on 600 hub miles.Today i ran 300 miles and made 1250.00.Yesterday i did 321 miles and made 1985.00...Today i am making 1550.00 going up and 950.00 coming back.Today will be a 610 mile journey...

    So it can happen..Its all about ''finding'' the right people with the right contracts..There are many many scum bags out there trying to make alot of profit off a hard working trucker..
     
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  3. mikec265

    mikec265 Medium Load Member

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    There is your biggest problem. you are not dispatching yourself. Again, point the finger at the guy in the mirror and tell him to do something different.


    "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

    Albert Einstein
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    No company out there dispatching o/o's is going to pay worth a crap, especially dry vans. You want to make great money with a van, better rates than flats and steps??? you have to be self dispatching to have any chance at that. There's no other way. Of course you'll never see the volume flats do but you can pull much better rates if you apply yourself. You have to be quick thinking and have some trucking wits about you to pull rates with a van. I don't think it's something that can be taught either. You either grasp it or you don't. Some real people out here do make great money with vans. Most pulling vans don't though. That's from being clueless and/or counting on someone else to get the rate...
     
  5. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    coming from a person who s been claiming to average 2 dollars per hub mile on this forum since I joined it. supported by another who admitted to banking below that after Landstar deductions 3 pages ago. And another who does not even pull dry vans anymore. Glad you all do so much better.Christmas must be on its way!!!
     
  6. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    See driving force...These guys took the time to help and show you what may be wrong or needs to be changed..And you told them to

    GO POUND SALT IN THERE ###....

    This is one of the issues i have with the real new people...They know everything about trucking after 2 months...
     
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  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I keep very accurate records of what I do with my van. Bill Hood's seen the ledger numbers as have a handful of other people on this forum. You see my black KW sometime yell at me on the radio and I'll be glad to show you the book with 2 years worth of data on every single load with a $2.20+ rate to the truck after all deadhead and Bill's cut off the top. I don't just pull this stuff out of my ###. I'm out here doing it.
     
  8. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    No point in explaining yourself Rollin...The only people that will ever ''BELIEVE'' you are the ones doing it.The ones that are ''STUCK'' will never see it.Even if i posted my numbers out here,they would say I FUDGED IT..So it's a no win...

    I beleive you and many others do too...I believe you because i am doing the same thing...I will SIT HOME IN MY CASTLE before i move this truck down the road for PEANUTS...Not happening in this life time...
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    He can't even figure out one of the easiest markets in the country for a dry van and questions what anyone else can do.
     
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  10. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    What if I dont want to spend my time on finding loads. Or doing my oil changes. Or taxes. If not dispatching myself is my biggest problem I am a very lucky man because for me it works just fine. Also its very flattering
    of you to think I could do better . Your advices would be applicable for an independent guy, not for me. At least for now. Also it is difficult to listen to someones advice who think they are entitled to call everybody dumb and clueless just because they make xtra 20 cpm. Too many variables will affect your net also to say you are doing much better in the final run.
    As far as networking or buying your own trailer that comes with time. You could come up to a Swift rookie driver and say he sucks and his co too ... Everything is relative you know.
    while you shop for those higher paying loads I go for a run or study espanol. Everybody has different goals in life . Money is not everything.
    The point of my first post was that compared to an independent owner my cost per mile is less. So running for the same or slightly higher rate does not favor them significantly.
     
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  11. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    :biggrin_2556:For me truck driving is just a step. The only question I have how people spend a lifetime in this industry and cant retire if their life depended on it.
     
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