what line to log when backed into a dock waiting forever to get loaded

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  1. dca

    dca Road Train Member

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    one place may take less then 15 minutes to check in and back into a door.. the next may take longer..
    if you're waiting in the truck.. its sleeper time... log it as it happens .. so its. said
     
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  3. GenericUserName

    GenericUserName Road Train Member

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    Im all about stacking that paper up so.... ;)
     
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  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    I save as much time on my 70 as possible. I'm on elogs on and I like them, but I handle this situation the same either way. As soon as the wheels stop at a shippers I go line 2.

    Chances are you will get 2 hours here, but if not it still stops the drive and 70 hour clock, I do not go to line 4 till I go in to sign the BOL.

    What happens as far as logbooks depend on circumstance. If I pull away from the door and have to wait at all for dispatch, a trailer what ever I go back to line 1 till Im going to actually leave the shipper/receiver.

    These minutes add up, you need to save your hours as much as possible. The thing with time stamps on  a BOL, Thy do not always match, but unless it was a preloaded trailer it needs to be close. I always include time and date when I sign just under my name. And its my time and date I worry about matching to my logbook.

    If you just go in and sign and it take say 5 minutes you just flag the book. There is not a DOT requirement to do any more. I have never received any grief from DOT regarding flagging load document in the book. This actually takes a few more minutes with elog as I have to enter information into the computer, then go back off duty.

    Bottom line is find out what your company requires, Most just want it flagged or a time deduct thats close to the BOL time n live loads.
     
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    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Makes no real difference, Elogs are better no one will question all the short off duty/ sleeper.
     
  6. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    I don't see how. You do realize it requires a minimum of 5 minutes for anything to log on your elog? Anyways, passed inspections or not, I would be kinda skeptical. "Did you disconnect and reconnect to a trailer? Did you pretrip a trailer? IF yes, you are on duty." If you claim you're off duty or in sleeper berth, your falsifying your log. 5 minutes is all it takes. Just remember that if you ever get into an accident. My logs are clean as day.
     
  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    There's rules and there's rules. I used to tell my students, there's the "real world" and there's "fantasyland". Seasoned police agencies know all about the "real world". Legally, if you're waiting to get loaded, you should be on line 4. Line 1 is for when you are relieved of all duty. That could be a grey area and a truck savvy lawyer would chew you up on the witness stand if there was a bad accident. You can't possibly believe if your truck's in a dock getting loaded/unloaded, you have no driver duties.

    Most police agencies tolerate some fudging on your log book, as long as it's not too
    ridiculous. :bootyshake:
     
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  8. ZVar

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    Depends on which elogs and company settings. The way peoplenat is set up at work it logs literately to the second. It displays to the minute, which can cause an issue is you are off-duty for exactly 30 minutes.
    Once while at a shipper I was off-duty for 28 minutes when I got the green light so I waited untill the unit showed 30 minutes then went on-duty. I then got out of the truck to go get paperwork. It did not count as a full break for the 8 hour clock. :( Stupid peoplenet....

    To answer the question I log it as I do it. I pull into the guard shack and go on-duty from driving. Get checked it, go around to the dock and back in. I then go off-duty until I get a green light. I go back on-duty, go get paperwork, then close everything up and take off letting the elogs auto-switch me to driving.
    -Steven
     
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