What other owner operators will not tell you when you are new.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Navajo Express JQ, Apr 13, 2023.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If everyone parks and the rates go up that is literally supply and demand.

    There’s so much overcapacity for those of you running the spot market how many trucks would have to park and how long would they have to park for before the rates moved? Everyone talks about parking for blitz week and there’s barely a noticeable change in rates.
     
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  3. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Last time the market tried correcting for overcapacity was about 2018, then 2019 and cheap fuel came, and everybody managed to hang on, then 2020 came with really cheap fuel and rates nobody had seen for a long while if ever. There are a lot of people running spot market who have no idea this is actually pretty normal for spot market freight.
     
  4. chimbotano

    chimbotano Heavy Load Member

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    Im not going to say what race or color, because I believe stupidity are in all of us. but , I talked to this "O/O" he has a contract from IA to CA . sometimes he deliveries into Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and finish it in Sacramento. it doesn't matter where or how many deliveries (usually4 stops) and his rate doesn't change $ 4,200.00. He has a co-driver. He told me he has another truck and also 2 drivers in it. Believe me guys, I wanted to F#### K#### him, so I tried to educate him and he told me that "No, no, . Im happy , very very happy , its ok for me" . How do you kill a death man?
    You know , I came here from a third world country, and I do my best to be frugal and live a simple life. therefore my budget is very low, BUT, it doesn't mean that I have to F UP for everyone else in this industry. since I don't need much , I work less . I try to live the American dream . FREEDOM !!! work less and enjoy life.
     
  5. Old Man

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    After almost 50 years in this business i can tell you there has always been a large portion of freight that has been cheap. yes even with regulation there was cheap freight. Seems like all the new OO’s are fighting over the same cheep stuff not knowing there is better freight to haul or knowing how to find it.
     
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  6. NYStarcar

    NYStarcar Light Load Member

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    The sinister trucking cabal got another one, if only we had said it was a bad idea.
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    There is a hell of a lot of freight out there to be had at good rates but it seems people get trapped into the broker mentality and not willing to seek it out. It isn't easy but it isn't impossible.
     
  8. Lexuslane

    Lexuslane Medium Load Member

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    Trucking has a low barrier to entry but a high barrier to success .
     
  9. Jacoooooooo

    Jacoooooooo Heavy Load Member

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    Too mamy trucks out there.
    Industry is overegulated yet still full of participants.
    All it shows is how weak the economy is.

    And by the way, I remember a year with change ago, whichever shipper or receiver I pulled into I had warehouse workers and forklifts operators asking how good money was, because they’ve heard from a previous driver they are „making” $10-12k a week. These bragging drivers can blame themselves, because all those asking are now in trucks next to them sitting on the truck stops and fighting for the same freight.

    All I say, I think this is going to be a hot summer, a lot of trucks will burn down on the side of the highway.
     
  10. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    and we still have people crying that they want more and more to make it fair for them to make money.

    Many just don't get it, there is no end to government involvement, and asking, for one thing, opens the door for other things they want to do.

    The latest crap is regulating brokers because they want to see what the broker is making.

    Some want to force shippers to open their bathrooms up to drivers through regulations while others want to be able to legally put their feet on the dash so they can get their flip-flops aired out.

    I am all for fewer regulations and for those others crafted to align them with common sense.

    If we really want to change how brokers work, we need to know who owns that load, and which party holds responsibility for marketing it and arranging for it to be moved. And this has to happen on the load boards with a full disclosure in the description, not hidden from anyone.
     
  11. chimbotano

    chimbotano Heavy Load Member

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    yep! those are the same MFRS who can't stop working because they spent all the money they made. Because of those same mfrs, all us are paying for their stupidity.
    Those guys were making bets in their YouTube channels. Who can make over 50k in one month. Some of them are in welfare now. I'll l bet money , they are.
     
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