I'm currently in the market for a truck/trailer to use for a dedicated lane I have negotiated with a shipper. I was hoping to get some advice as to what you all think the optimal rig would be for this particular lane/freight. Fuel efficiency and down time are my biggest concerns, but also want to take into account driver comfort as I will not be operating the truck. This will require a sleeper unit as the driver could be on the road 3-4 days until returning to NM for their next lane. What are your all's thoughts on HP/MAKE/MODEL/YEAR/DT/Tires/Trailer etc... your thoughts are appreciated!
Budget: <= $100K for Truck/Trailer
Lane details
NW New Mexico to NW Missouri approximately 800 miles
Feed ingredients 50lb totes around 40-44K/lb. loads
Max elevation: 3914 ft / 1193 m
Min elevation: 856 ft / 261 m
Elevation change: 3058 ft / 932 m
Max grade: 1.1%
Min grade: -1.9%
Steepness score: 35 + 195 + 949 + 27 = 1205
Distance: 843.82 mi / 1357.99 km
Travel Time: 12 hours 24 mins
What type of truck/trailer is best for my situation?
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I tagged Ridgeline because he's a small (I think small) fleet owner.Last edited: Sep 7, 2022
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If your budget for truck and trailer is less than $100k your options will be severely limited.
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100K will be anything you can find. Not a lot of money for looking for a setup. Any random used truck will not be worth the money you can afford with a trailer. IMO
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Get a Cascadia.
Probably a 2013 dry van.
Should be 100k or less.
Obviously due diligence and inspect thoroughly.Bean Jr. and jayhawk123 Thank this. -
thanks china!
the absolutely first thing is this … if you want to lower your risk for downtime, the travel time is way off, it is a 18 hour trip for the purpose of a contract.
the second is any good fleet spec’d truck should work, don’t but cheap junk.
the third is a good but light truck is needed and a good clean dry van can be found
But I doubt you should keep the $100k limit, try $140.Bean Jr., Diesel Dave, jayhawk123 and 2 others Thank this. -
Thank you all for the feedback it is very appreciated. As I learn the industry I'll make sure to give back to the community.
I have leaned towards Cascadia's 2018+ as my research has them at one of the best MPG in my price range. I was seeing these around $70K, but just realized those were almost always Penske or fleet owned 450K-550K miles where I've heard its highly probably you'll be within a year or two of having to do a major overhaul which I'd like to avoid. That being said I see what you all mean by increase the budget to $100K-$120K for the truck.
Would you all agree stay away from the Penske's, auctions and 4-400K listings?
@Ridgeline I really appreciate your feedback. Could you elaborate on the 18 hour trip for the purpose of contract? Are you saying this to build in a cushion for expected delivery date::time from a customer perspective? I do realize as far as fuel optimization, 800 miles is going to be more like 13-14 hours at the very least and one stop for fuel, but where does the additional 3 hours get baked in? Again I am new to this so please forgive my ignorance. -
This has been used for decades.
When you are taking in account the drive time for the truck, this includes stops for fuel, pee breaks and so on. The driver isn't a robot.
some days you may be able to do it in 14 hours, other times it may take the full 19, you don't want to screw the driver by pressuring them and burning them out (that's another issue for another time).
So when I talk to someone about a contract for a dedicated run, I use 48 mph and this allows me to return a better than expected performance of our work while for the most part doesn't destroy the driver with constant work.
Dedicated work is the worst because it is pretty repetitive, same route same scenery and so on. I did it for three years and if it wasn't for the fact that it was three days a week with four once a month delivering to specific customers all the time, I would not have last.
That said, here is an example.
I have a similar customer, the contracted work covers 896 miles door to door, it is out of the southwest to the midwest. The customer thought that the driver could do it under 13 hours because the guy I was negotiating with did it in 12 hours but I explained to him that the truck doesn't do 75 mph, and the truck has at least one fuel stop and my drivers take breaks regardless.
So it works out to being 18.6 hours or as I have in the contract 20 hours unless there are delays beyond our control.
And with any negotiation, there was a compromise needed to be met between two parties, I lowered the base rate by 12% but decreased the threshold for the FSC to make up the difference.
It all works out.
They accepted it without understanding the FSC and renewed the contract just a couple weeks back despite the enormous amount of money they have been charged for the fuel cost adjustment. This arrangement made them adjust their scheduling a bit more than they wanted, their customer wasn't thrilled with it but when their stats came in from the company HQ, they were happy to see the deliveries were all within their receiving/protect time window, never late.Midwest Trucker, jayhawk123 and Siinman Thank this. -
@jayhawk123 just out of my own curiosity, what is your background within the trucking industry? Do you hold a CDL?
I see you've been a member of this site since 2013 but only have 10 posts...Bean Jr. Thanks this. -
@JonJon78 I do not hold a CDL currently. I've worked on the non asset side of the business in financing/factoring/brokerage/software/fuel for the last 10 years, but not for an asset based company. I understand it will be a steep learning curve to learn this side of the business, but I will always bet on myself at whatever I set out to accomplish. And yes, I've been sneaking around this forum for nearly a decade and now feel in the next 3-6 months there will be no better time to jump in head first.
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Get yourself an automatic kenworth 680 - Peterbilt 579 or Cascadia- stay away from LT- around 500k miles isx15 400 hp dd13 3.08 or lower gear ratio -should be sufficient for your load
Trailer - look for anything 2015 And up with air ride, push button sliders, aluminum roof, and swing doors
I’d change all tires to Sumitomos and have Michelin on the steerLast edited: Sep 8, 2022
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