What would you have done...

Boka · Apr 5, 2013

Hi guys, first of all this is a great place to get all info in todays trucking...

I've read lots of threads and finally decided to start one on my own

Well there's something that's been bothering me ever since i left trucking almost two years ago so i just wanted to see what would you guys done if you were to run into a situation that i was in.... so here it goes

I once was pulled over couple of years ago in Chicago, local cop pulled me over just one mile away from a place where i picked up a load. He had me follow him to a police station and put me on a portable scale. He said i was 300lbs over on my tandems and i had to pay $600 before i could leave there. That just goes to show you how corrupt system really is... ( even tho i had nowhere to scale my load when i left the shipper and him not letting me get out of a truck to see the actual axle weights )

He never even checked my log book or anything else and when i finally paid i asked him if i needed to move my tandems to make it legal he said "i don't care, its up to you" Well all of you guys know that if you drive through a weigh station with 300lbs over on any of your axles 90% of the time they won't even pull you in...

I did get over the fact that i had to pay, but what really bothers me is the fact that they can get away with stuff like that... I didn't want to legally fight it just because it would cost me more money for a lawyer and not work for a couple of days

Well that is my thread and sorry if its lengthy i just wanted to see what would you guys have done differently?

Autocar · Apr 5, 2013

Did he write a citation? Bet he didn't, but had a payment for his car in pocket.

Chinatown · Apr 5, 2013

Just a textbook case of corruption; it's all over America. I was given a ticket in TN for a trailer tail light being out. I stood there with the DOT officer looking at the light that was actually working; he said, "if you disagree with me I'm going to search your sleeper & I WILL find something." Another driver at the same place was in deep trouble for a can of beer magically appearing in his sleeper, even though he has severe stomach problems and can't tolerate alcohol. The Feds. finally cracked down on TN and slowed a lot of that down. Corruption is everywhere at all levels. Even the bag boy at the grocery store is stealing.

Boka · Apr 5, 2013

Yea he just gave me a receipt heheh I did go inside of a police station to pay and there was another guy there who was almost crying because he had to pay $4500 no lie. He told me he was 1500 lbs over on his drives and also picked up at the same place i did...

Pedigreed Bulldog · Apr 5, 2013

I would have told the cop to kiss my rear end....

(625 ILCS 5/15-111)
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(from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 15-111)
Sec. 15-111. Wheel and axle loads and gross weights.
(a) No vehicle or combination of vehicles with pneumatic tires may be operated, unladen or with load, when the total weight on the road surface exceeds the following: 20,000 pounds on a single axle; 34,000 pounds on a tandem axle with no axle within the tandem exceeding 20,000 pounds; 80,000 pounds gross weight for vehicle combinations of 5 or more axles; or a total weight on a group of 2 or more consecutive axles in excess of that weight produced by the application of the following formula: W = 500 times the sum of (LN divided by N-1) + 12N + 36, where "W" equals overall total weight on any group of 2 or more consecutive axles to the nearest 500 pounds, "L" equals the distance measured to the nearest foot between extremes of any group of 2 or more consecutive axles, and "N" equals the number of axles in the group under consideration.

(625 ILCS 5/15-112) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 15-112)
Sec. 15-112. Officers to weigh vehicles and require removal of excess loads.
(d) Whenever any axle load of a vehicle exceeds the axle or tandem axle weight limits permitted by paragraph (a) of Section 15-111 by 2000 pounds or less, the owner or operator of the vehicle must shift or remove the excess so as to comply with paragraph (a) of Section 15-111. No overweight arrest ticket shall be issued to the owner or operator of the vehicle by any officer if the excess weight is shifted or removed as required by this paragraph.
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...and even if you chose not to make it legal and just accept a citation for the overweight axle group, the fine amount stated by the cop was 6 times too high.

(625 ILCS 5/15-113) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 15-113)
Sec. 15-113. Violations; Penalties.

Up to and including 2000 pounds overweight, the fine is $100

From 2001 through 2500 pounds overweight, the fine is $270

From 2501 through 3000 pounds overweight, the fine is $330

From 3001 through 3500 pounds overweight, the fine is $520

From 3501 through 4000 pounds overweight, the fine is $600

From 4001 through 4500 pounds overweight, the fine is $850

From 4501 through 5000 pounds overweight, the fine is $950

From 5001 or more pounds overweight, the fine shall be computed by assessing $1500 for the first 5000 pounds overweight and $150 for each additional increment of 500 pounds overweight or fraction thereof.

In addition any person, firm or corporation convicted of 4 or more violations of Section 15-111 within any 12 month period shall be fined an additional amount of $5,000 for the fourth and each subsequent conviction within the 12 month period. Provided, however, that with regard to a firm or corporation, a fourth or subsequent conviction shall mean a fourth or subsequent conviction attributable to any one employee-driver.
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=146000000&SeqEnd=148200000

Boka · Apr 6, 2013

Pedigreed Bulldog said: ↑

I would have told the cop to kiss my rear end....

...and even if you chose not to make it legal and just accept a citation for the overweight axle group, the fine amount stated by the cop was 6 times too high.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?ActID=1815&ChapterID=49&SeqStart=146000000&SeqEnd=148200000

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I know it but i was just surprised because he told me i can leave but truck has to stay there until fine was paid and it happened so quick so i just pulled out my card and paid

Everything happened so quick that i had no time to even think clearly especially after i saw that guy had to pay $4500

379exhd · Apr 6, 2013

I would've simply smiled at the officer after paying my fine and said don't come to Nebraska. Have a friend that works for the sheriffs department. You think you got raked over the coals I shudder to think what would've happened to that Chicago cop if he would've done that to me and my friend wouldve got ahold of him lmfao.

Boka · Apr 6, 2013

379exhd said: ↑

I would've simply smiled at the officer after paying my fine and said don't come to Nebraska. Have a friend that works for the sheriffs department. You think you got raked over the coals I shudder to think what would've happened to that Chicago cop if he would've done that to me and my friend wouldve got ahold of him lmfao.
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Yea i don't think it would be a good idea to threaten a cop heheh even tho i was very pissed i didn't want to get in more trouble...

Autocar · Apr 6, 2013

I'd have asked the cop if he knew my buddy Georgie, who works downtown in Internal Affairs.

LandShark · Apr 6, 2013

Yea. Right. Loll.
All Of. You woulda a, should a. Whatever
you all would do the same thing pay the fine and the split.

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