Whats a good all around setup

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  1. DLament

    DLament Bobtail Member

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    Well drivers I'm looking for what I believe may be a unicorn, but I need a good all around oversize setup. I'm located in the Midwest and I will be running local/regional. There is a ton of ag products moving around here but I would like a trailer that wouldn't be a pain to haul some construction equipment as well. Here is what I'm thinking.

    Tri axle 45T or more
    29' well
    Hydraulic neck

    Am I crazy thinking this will be a "do all" trailer?

    The trail king MG-HG seems to cover all this but for a pretty penny. Does anybody have any experience with one or something similar?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank ya.
     
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  3. DLament

    DLament Bobtail Member

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    Nobody has an opinion on this?
     
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  4. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    What do you mean by ag products because to me that’s grains hay fertilizer lime maybe some dirt or rock. I’m guessing you have something else in mind based on the trailer you mentioned
     
  5. SomeCanadian

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    I’ve pulled older mg trail kings, I’m not sure if you can get a well quite that long as a tri. Ours where tandoms with a pin on third on common air. Be ready to build some ramps if equipment doesn’t fit in the well, and smaller stuff has a hard time climbing up the front but I think that might be a limitation of all rgn’s. We had 1’ separated crossmembers w/swing outs. Make sure the one you get has the chain slot cutouts or you going to have a hard time finding a good way to tie things down or your going to ruin a lot of chain. the slide out trailers are a fare bit heavier.

    Overall they have been good trailers.
    Movealls of the same size and build but with aluminum slide outs are heavy. (I can’t remember by how much but I think 4k ish. They were all right but a bit more of a fight to split in bad weather.

    On the trail kings make sure when loading/unloading you push the nob for the neck back in. If for some reason you fall off it’s either never going to work right again or your going to have a bad day fixing it right. You will have to disable the auto catch that holds it out when disconnected.
     
  6. DLament

    DLament Bobtail Member

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    Sorry for the confusion I meant Ag equipment, tractors, combines, planters etc.
     
  7. DLament

    DLament Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the insight. In your opinion are the slide outs worth the extra weight & money vs. the swing outs?
     
  8. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    from what I can see the slide outs are better because they can be used to cradle a tire and effectively lower your overall height.
    I have a trail king hdg??? 3 axle that’s 53’ and I have a 26’ well. You can probably get a 28’ well with the same trailer and a shorter neck. My deck is 18” thick and my deck height is 26” at the highest part of the crown. I mostly move construction equipment and some industrial stuff. Most farm equipment is to tall on my trailer.
    If I were looking for a trailer to haul farm equipment I would probably be looking at a 35-40ton with the lowest deck height possible. I think a spread axle would be better. If you’re trying to avoid overweight permits a spread will carry the same weight as a tri because of the weight savings of one less axle (in Illinois) If you’re going to be running permits you will only easily be able to permit to 100k in Illinois. I think that would be ok for most farm equipment.
     
  9. SomeCanadian

    SomeCanadian Light Load Member

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    Slide outs are a convenience. It is likely still possible that if you get swing outs to get strap winches for the main deck, it adds some freight choices if you have em. (We did, I might have used em once a year, straps w/ chain end could usually do the same thing if needed.) It entirely depends on what you want to haul. Farm tractors -shouldn’t need need em unless a wide stance row crop.
    Track machines -same thing
    Combines -wheels on, only pull outs
    Sprayers -again only pull outs (some lighter units may work on swings but most if not all distance between the tires is < 8’6”.
    Rock truck/front loader you will likely be fine without any extension, size depending

    Is it worth it, do you need 600hp? 350 will get you there. Will it limit your freight options, yes either way. You could get one that doesn’t have ‘em. I don’t know your market or your business plans

    if you have less than a third of a tire or track on your fixed deck you should use slides. Or you need to build steel sections instead of boards for the swing outs
     
  10. beastr123

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    Aluminum reefer flooring planks are lighter and are plenty strong enough in most cases.
    Check with local heavy towing companies concerning where write-off trailers are parted out to find them.
     
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