Whats all this noise about idle time?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JIMROY, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I agree no idle then where's the APU.It's not just the companies,many states have the no idling law as well.Another one of many laws targeted to the trucking industry.
     
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  3. Pmracing

    Pmracing Road Train Member

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    Noooo. Nothing has changed in the last year or three... or more.

    Why would you think that?

    Mikeeee
     
  4. JIMROY

    JIMROY Medium Load Member

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    Well Cowpie1,
    This is not directed at you personally , i do have agree and disagree with the whole idea.
    You have a valid point about spending money, but on the other hand its not reasonable to expect a hand to freeze his assets off or fry in the heat. company money or your own, If your suffering from major discomfort , your not sleeping good and getting the needed rest you need to be a safe driver. When I was trucking back in the olden days lol i ran the truck all nite when i was peeing icicles or i was able to fry an egg on the fender. your life or anyone elses are not worth a few dollars worth of fuel. and btw i was buying the fuel and it didn't amout to that much. And i certainly would not expect a driver of mine to suffer unnessecary discomfort either. We ain't getting paid to be miserable for a living... And to anyone who is so ruff and tuff that they wanna freeze their assets off and sleep in a muddy foxhole when they could be sleeping in a nice comfortable kingsize bed. I say " Have at it moron" lol


    Those who think that part of our job is to be miserable , need to think again. they put a/c and heaters in trucks for a reason. Ron White said in all " YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID"... just sayin....
     
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  5. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Let me ask do you run your truck for heat and a/c or did you pay the $$$$ and have an apu installed? Either way seems you burnt your "bosses" money just the same as the ones your complaining about. Yes I know your an owner op but someones money is steal being wasted.

    And this is why I became an owner op and got away from the companies that treat drivers like dirt. I don't have the extra $7500 sitting around to put an apu on my trucks so I expect my trucks to run all day during the winter and alot during the summer when its too hot. The main difference with me is I get my trucks home nightly or at least every weekend.
     
  6. JIMROY

    JIMROY Medium Load Member

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    Correct me if i am wrong and i will back up.... But don't APU's burn fuel to operate??? Last time i looked the heaters and A/C were already connected to the engine of the truck. So you don't have the extra cost and weight of an apu , when the motor does the same thing anyhow...
     
  7. sedain

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    of course.. but the wages dont go up with inflation and too many are out all year, or only home 3 days per month so without being able to idle makes it too rough, almost subhuman. i know that the "optics" of the profession is that we ARE subhuman, but that isnt true.

    i mean if the pay went at or above inflation for the last 40 yrs most drivers would be making over 2k/wk or more and getting a hotel wouldnt be as big of a deal, but which otr company drivers pay for hotel rooms often when it gets too hot or cold and youre in a no idle area??? not many... close to zero.

    im not an old timer, but from what i understand trucks werent shut off in the past unless there was no point in having it on...fuel prices werent a concern and neither were emissions, all of this is being pushed on us on top of everything else. resisting it is the LEAST we can do, i mean the turnover is already over 100%... only so many drivers will go out and #### near freeze on one end, or sweat all night without sleeping only to urgently wait for the next trip to be assigned.
     
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  8. JIMROY

    JIMROY Medium Load Member

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    Mikeeee,
    ya got me there, lol I was more or less trying to get a feel for what major changes have happened since 1990. I was driving in the old school and didn't granddaddy over when they came out with this new program. I kind of lost touch with whats happening, now i am getting an idea what i need to get edumacated about and what to expect...
     
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  9. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I made sure the truck I bought HAD an APU on it.

    The reduced wear on the engine is MORE than the incentive I wanted to have the APU. The fuel savings is a bonus.

    and considering that the Yanmar engine, is rated at less than 0.1 lbs per hour consumption at load, that's at least 1/3 the fuel to 1/10 the fuel of a big engine for an evening.

    234 grams is about 8 oz (weight) per hour. that would be 0.07 gallons per hour. A gallon of fuel is considered 7.15 lbs per gallon. or 114.4 oz.

    http://www.centrodiesel.com/yanmar/pdf/2TNV70-HGE.pdf
     
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  10. Oregon Grown

    Oregon Grown Light Load Member

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    You guys say that your not supposed to idle in CA but when I was at the TA in LA just as many trucks were idling there as anywhere else?
     
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  11. JIMROY

    JIMROY Medium Load Member

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    That goes to prove not all drivers in calif are stupid. its been freezing or below here for the last 2 months at least. Tell the cops to give ya their credit card and you'll be happy to rent a hotel room. lol

    btw is clear pine lumber still in business in prineville? i used to pull eastbound loads out of there. way back in the days...
     
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