Whats all this noise about idle time?

Oregon Grown · Feb 17, 2013

i havent heard that name in some time so i couldnt say.Not to mention I dont get over to Prineville much any more.

JIMROY · Feb 17, 2013

thanks, Reckon I did my fair share of idling in their yard. not to mention unfreezing brakes in the mornings too.

Pmracing · Feb 17, 2013

Just get a dog.
It is legal to idle anytime, with a pet in the cab subject to animal cruelty laws. No such rules/laws for humans.

Mikeeee

JIMROY · Feb 17, 2013

that figures , why ain't i suprised.

PackRatTDI · Feb 17, 2013

Oregon Grown said: ↑

You guys say that your not supposed to idle in CA but when I was at the TA in LA just as many trucks were idling there as anywhere else?
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If you have that clean idle sticker on your truck, you are exempt from the California idle restrictions. Same thing in Pennsylvania. If your truck has a DPF, you are allowed to idle in New Jersey.

Noggin · Feb 17, 2013

critters said: ↑

limited on idle time some states do an execption for extreme weather,and yes some changes in logs also. they now require a half hour break to be logged in your day.
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Just bring a dog. Can idle non stop then. they care more about animals than truckers.

Noggin · Feb 18, 2013

JIMROY said: ↑

Correct me if i am wrong and i will back up.... But don't APU's burn fuel to operate??? Last time i looked the heaters and A/C were already connected to the engine of the truck. So you don't have the extra cost and weight of an apu , when the motor does the same thing anyhow...
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My APU shuts off whenever my desired temperature has been reached, and will kick back on when it warms up past a certain temp from the setting. Summer time it may start up quite a few times, but in the cooler parts of the year, it may run for a few then shut off the rest of the night.

sazook · Feb 18, 2013

Pmracing said: ↑

Just get a dog.
It is legal to idle anytime, with a pet in the cab subject to animal cruelty laws. No such rules/laws for humans.

Mikeeee
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Noggin said: ↑

Just bring a dog. Can idle non stop then. they care more about animals than truckers.
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Not true. There is absolutely NO exception in the CARB regulations that allow idling with an animal in the truck. Nor do I know of one in any other state that has idling regulations.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/truck-idling/2485.pdf

(d) Exceptions.

(1) Except when a vehicle is located within 100 feet of a restricted area,
subsection (c)(1)(A) does not apply, if the vehicle is equipped with

(A) a primary diesel engine meeting the optional NOx idlingemission standard pursuant to title 13, CCR, section1956.8(a)(6)(C); and

(B) a label meeting the requirements pursuant to section 35.B.4 ofthe "California Exhaust Emission Standards and TestProcedures for 2004 and Subsequent Model Heavy-Duty DieselEngines and Vehicles," as incorporated by reference in title 13,CCR, section 1956.8(b).

(2) Subsection (c)(1) does not apply for the period or periods duringwhich

(A) a bus is idling for
(1) up to 10.0 minutes prior to passenger boarding, or(2) when passengers are onboard;

(B) prior to January 1, 2008, idling of the primary diesel engine isnecessary to power a heater, air conditioner, or any ancillaryequipment during sleeping or resting in a sleeper berth. Thisprovision does not apply when operating within 100 feet of arestricted area;

(C) idling when the vehicle must remain motionless due to trafficconditions, an official traffic control device, or an official trafficcontrol signal over which the driver has no control, or at thedirection of a peace officer, or operating a diesel-fueled APS orother device at the direction of a peace officer;

(D) idling when the vehicle is queuing that at all times is beyond 100feet from any restricted area;

(E) idling of the primary diesel engine, operating a diesel-fueledAPS, or operating other devices when forced to remainmotionless due to immediate adverse weather conditions

affecting the safe operation of the vehicle or due to mechanicaldifficulties over which the driver has no control;

(F) idling to verify that the vehicle is in safe operating condition asrequired by law and that all equipment is in good working order,either as part of a daily vehicle inspection or as otherwiseneeded, provided that such engine idling is mandatory for suchverification;

(G) idling of the primary diesel engine, operating a diesel-fueledAPS, or operating other devices is mandatory for testing,servicing, repairing, or diagnostic purposes, includingregeneration or maintenance of the exhaust emission controldevice during engine idling when the dashboard indicator light, ifso equipped, is illuminated indicating that regeneration ormaintenance is in progress;

(H) idling when positioning or providing a power source forequipment or operations, other than transporting passengers orpropulsion, which involve a power take off or equivalentmechanism and is powered by the primary engine for:

(1) controlling cargo temperature, operating a lift, crane, pump,drill, hoist, mixer (such as a ready mix concrete truck), orother auxiliary equipment;

(2) providing mechanical extension to perform work functions forwhich the vehicle was designed and where substitutealternate means to idling are not reasonably available; or

(3) collection of solid waste or recyclable material by an entityauthorized by contract, license, or permit by a school or localgovernment;

(I) idling of the primary diesel engine, operating a diesel-fueled APS,or operating other devices when operating defrosters, heaters, airconditioners, or other equipment solely to prevent a safety orhealth emergency;

(J) idling of the primary diesel engine, operating a diesel-fueled APS,or operating other devices by authorized emergency vehicleswhile in the course of providing services for which the vehicle isdesigned;

(K) idling of military tactical vehicles during periods of training, testing,and deployment; and

(L) idling when operating equipment such as a wheelchair or peopleassist lift as prescribed by the Americans with Disabilities Act.
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sazook · Feb 18, 2013

From New Jersey:

http://www.nj.gov/dep/stopthesoot/sts-faq.htm

1. Am I allowed to idle my diesel truck while I'm sleeping in it?
Beginning on May 1, 2011, only those vehicles with sleeper berths that have a model year 2007 or newer engine, or have been retrofitted with a diesel particulate filter, will be allowed to idle past the three-minute limit but only while the driver is resting or sleeping in the sleeper berth.
An enforcement officer may need to confirm that there is someone sleeping in the sleeper berth.
Idling is not allowed to provide heat or air-conditioning for pets.
Drivers and trucking companies are encouraged to use alternatives to engine idling for
temperature control that will save fuel and maintenance costs such as alternate power units or
plug-in power.
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Chinatown · Feb 18, 2013

Check the yellow pages for truck driving schools; then call and ask if they have refresher course. If you've not been driving for a long time, many companies won't accept refresher & you must do the entire CDL course. Better ask the companies you're interested in which they require. Might also ask about their idling policies & APU's.

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