Whats going rate on 13 foot wide load?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by revelation1911, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    I will do it for $990,000.00+permits.
     
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  3. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    That's okay werners got some flatbeds, heard they would haul it for $375.00 permits included...
     
  4. Oscar the KW

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    He's probably got a little wiggle room in there so he can cut their rate cut.:biggrin_25523:
     
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  5. Unclegrumpy

    Unclegrumpy Light Load Member

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    If you don't know or can't figure it out then leave it for those that do, you'll only make a mess of things.
     
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  6. racebiker1

    racebiker1 Bobtail Member

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    I just got back from hauling a 12'3 wide load 4900 pds, went from minneapolis mn to Indiana 650 miles tarped paid 3200.00 permits for wi,il, and Indiana were less than 200.00 that load was throudh a broker,
     
  7. kwloo

    kwloo Medium Load Member

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    dont forget limited travel time and curfews. i ended up getting loaded late and arrived at omaha ne just in time to sit from 4 pm to 9 am
     
  8. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    Try getting to New York state on Thursday night and waiting till Tuesday morning.
     
  9. cpape

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    If you are putting your quote in writing, state cost does not include permits or escorts required by local governments or municipalities. Often you will not know you need these until you order your state permits.

    I never quote cost + permits. This means I am reimbursed face value of the permit by the shipper. This does not allow anything for cost of time for the person ordering, mistakes/reorders, fax fees, etc. Obtaining permits can be costly, and the trucker should be compensated for more than face value of the permit.

    Always state that your quote is based on the dimensions your customer provides. If you order permits prior to loading/measuring and their dims are incorrect, they pay for additional permits. If their dims are inaccurate they may be paying more as well.

    Only order permits for the first couple states until the load is on the truck and dims have been confirmed. This saves the hassle of reordering and fighting with the customer/broker about add'l permit cost.

    $100,000 of cargo insurance is standard in our industry. You should be charging more for a load whose value exceeds this number. Even if you carry $300K in cargo insurance, you should charge your customer add'l for loads that exceed $100K. In addition to recovering the cost of that additional cargo insurance, you have increased exposure to a cargo claim.

    12' has always seemed to be the magic number for me when it comes to wide loads. As discussed, you will generally require escorts for shipments that exceed this width. Again, I don't believe in passing through the cost. You should make something for acquiring escorts. Escorts will generally require being paid upon completion of the haul...your customer will probably pay you in 30-45 days. Sooner or later, something will go wrong and you will have money coming out of your pocket. If you only pass the cost of escorts on to your customer, you haven't made anything extra to cover this cost. If you are traveling on 2 lane roads escorts could be required under 12'. Check requirements ahead of time.

    I try to analyze the exposure when deciding additional charges for over size shipments. For example, there is far less exposure to a 10' axle on a farm tractor than there is to a 10' wide excavator track. The track is wide at the deck height of the trailer, which is the same height as a car. The tractor axle is well above a car or construction barrier. A 12' wide box shaped load that requires a double drop is even worse because it is only 18" off the ground. In addition, this could cause trouble with vision out of your mirrors. A 12' wide cylinder or tank causes less difficulty and exposure. It is complicated, but I feel it is worthwhile to consider.

    Hours of operation is a critical concern this time of year. Daylight is basically 8AM-5PM. When you add city curfews to the mix, you can lose productivity fast. Make sure you are getting compensated for this loss of productivity.

    Lastly, make sure you (or your driver) knows what they are doing. In addition to hauling the load, every state has their own requirement. Most provision sheets are 1-3 pages long. Better read all of it. Hauling oversize loads definitely requires a higher caliber of driver.
     
  10. Oscar the KW

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    Now this is how to answer a "whats the going rate" question. Well done Sir!
     
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  11. qtip

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    If you gotta ask on a forum, I wouldn't recommend touching it. $10/mile...everything they've said is correct. Mine is a shot in the dark +permits/pilot's and actual miles not PC miler garbage (you'll be lucky if its within 50% of your actual miles) and then trailer, is an 80000$ double drop worth the same as a 20000 flatbed? Also the insurance, not the cargo part the liability, alot more can go wrong and screw you long term. Guaranteed its your fault if an accident happens
     
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