What's the #1 reason your detention claims get denied?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by ron.oruganti, Aug 12, 2025 at 12:46 PM.

When a detention claim is denied, what's the main reason you're given?

  1. They dispute my log times / "lack of proof"

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  2. They claim detention pay wasn't in the rate con/contract

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  3. They say the appointment wasn't "firm" (First Come, First Serve issues)

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  4. They just ignore my request / It's too much hassle to fight for it

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  5. I don't have this problem / I usually get paid

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  6. Other (Please explain in the comments!)

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  1. ron.oruganti

    ron.oruganti Bobtail Member

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    ""What part of it don't you understand?
    The ELD time, GPS location is continually auto updated in the TMS. No input from you required. Contract terms are in that profile. It can even e-mail customer/broker before detention would start. If everything meets the requirements then it's included in the invoice when the load is done. When the BOL's hit the system the invoice is auto generated."

    wichris, thank you. That's the perfect description of how a high-end, perfectly configured TMS should work, and you've given me some crucial clarity.

    It seems like the major carriers with those enterprise systems have this problem largely solved. My focus is on providing a simple, affordable tool for the thousands of other carriers who don't have access to that level of automation yet.
     
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  3. BlackjackCo

    BlackjackCo Light Load Member

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    I guess I'm just super lucky.... Small company but I get paid for my "non-driving" time at an hourly rate plus all miles driven on the truck (on or off duty).

    I often have "detention" times because loading and unloading feed at mills usually have lines of trucks waiting and commonly a mill runs out of "product" for a variety of reasons (including over-selling just like airlines to ensure product is not built up if carriers don't arrive to get assigned loads).....

    It's not uncommon to have 2-4 hr wait times, and have even had multiple loads that I waited over 12 hours (moving truck forward a truck length every 3 hrs).

    I let the billing people take care of getting their hourly fees for truck, fuel, driver etc... but to help them I always note my arrival and departure times on my freight bill as well as a note for the reason (ie, "line of trucks", "out of product", "mill down for repairs", "staff delay", etc. ). And if it's an "out of product" issue I take a picture of the load screen showing product volume and attach with my completed paperwork.

    I don't see the actual billing so don't know how often the broker or customer or shipper pay "detention"... But I know my bosses appreciate it, and I never have to worry about getting paid for my wait times.
     
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  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    “Sorry, we only pay that on Febutober the eleventeenth if a herd of pink unicorns is flying through the sky.” :rolleyes:
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Where I'm at as a company driver we're geo-fenced at all locations so the wait time is automatically accounted for and paid. Drivers don't have to do anything it pays like clockwork. The result being drivers don't even bother trying to cheat e-logs saving time here and there. Everything is on duty because it all pays. Taking a shower or eating lunch, that's on duty. Drivers don't shortcut their sleep trying to make up missed revenue from time wasted by customers. Which is how it should be everywhere in trucking. The technology is there so there's no excuses not to pay drivers for all time on duty in addition to driving. By and large industry wide nobody wants to be responsible paying for drivers' wasted time waiting around. It's a lot of extra cost that exposes just how wasteful and inefficient they are.
     
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  6. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    BINGO!
     
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  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    The problem with brokers and detention pay is only if you don't follow their specific policy on it. I rarely had issues getting paid detention from brokers back when I was working with them. They all have different policy and procedures there though so it's not uniform and can be a headache. And no carrier with direct customers wants brokers having their ELD data which is understandable.
     
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