Buying the first truck is the hardest. To finance one you'll need commercial credit, but nobody will extend commercial credit to a first time buyer.... unless.... unless you have a substantial down payment, (something like 50%), and someone who is established that you'll be leasing onto who will provide projected earnings figures to the lender... that will get you into a truck...
And Rollin Coal is right, you better have a reserve.... figure an amount of at least 40k... that will get you by, ensure that you can cover any repair, and keep you afloat should the first place you lease onto be less than honest with their figures... you have to be extremely careful in this business...
It takes more business sense than driving skills to make it as an o/o'er.
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What's the best way to acquire your first truck?
Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by 8-j, Mar 10, 2013.
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If you drive full time 5 years & just can't get enough, we will talk. This ain't a car, you want to make real sure.
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Go buy an 18 or 14 month calendar now and start recording when you do your services, loads, what repairs, costs, etc. Basically, keep a daily journal of EVERYTHING you do/with to that truck. Including your loads.
IF, yeah, that's a big IF. you can sweet talk your dispatcher into it, see if you can get them on occasion to pass you what the load pays. Don't ask for all of them. Just the ones that pique your interest.
The road to being an o/o is to start thinking like one too. Stop relying on your office to answer your questions and get you out of a pickle. Because when you get into that truck, you are on your own. You don't have a supporting staff any more to back you up.
This isn't a job driving a truck. You are providing a service relocating someones product. How you define that service will set you aside from a million others who provide that same service. THAT is what will get you noticed by brokers/shippers and on their return call list with loads that don't get posted. And that is where the real money is.rhouston24, Zangief, Bigdubber and 1 other person Thank this. -
Mostly I've been driving carefully, watching the equipment, and mileage, and thinking to myself "Why am I doing all of this for somebody else?"
I'm in a Freightliner Columbia right now, and I'd like to run some wires from the toggle switch on the dash that controls my engine brake, and add a toggle switch to my gear shifter, so I can control it from there. The problem: it's not my truck. I'm not allowed to do that kind of stuff.
Besides that, I'm tired of taking my Driver Manager's BS. I know I'll have to take the same things from another DM at a lease-op company, but at least I can reassure myself that I'm eventually going to be free from that.
(edited back.... didn't see there were other posts)Last edited: Mar 12, 2013
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It never goes away. It just changes form. It becomes brokers/shippers/consignees. Just how it is. Someone is going to piss you off.
It's not about modifying a truck. It's about seeing it as a business now. WHY is your DM deciding some of the things they are? Can you anticipate those decisions. -
Unless you are so strong willed you can't stand working for others, I would remain a company driver. 25 years ago it was a great thing to be an 0/0. You will spend so much time looking up load boards, no support at all, & it goes on. It's a tough way to make a buck buddy. It can be done though.
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That last part won't happen overnight. Doesn't matter if you have 8 months or 8 years experience. The only way that will happen is by doing that. And going to a large mega-carrier and leasing on with them isn't going to get you there. You are a glorified company driver to them. just they don't have to fix your truck. YOU DO. Brokers don't want to hear "my truck is broke down." They want to hear, "your load is delivered on-time and no DSO" If you need to ask what is "DSO", you aren't ready. -
I'm leaning strongly toward lease-op, so I can learn the whole "own your own truck" thing a bit at a time. I can start with just the truck, and worry about where to get loads, or what the loads pay further down the road. It looks like most of the lease-ops still pay you straight mileage rather than freight.
As for my DM, he's been running me off of rollover hours for over a week now. I think if I were a full owner op, I'd just refuse a load so I could take my 34, unless it was so well paid that it was really worth it. Instead I'm on forced dispatch. Those extra hours I work to get me over the 3,000 miles mark in a week - they're only worth the same as the first 1,000 (all 33 cents/mile) because I'm a company driver. If I were lease-op working this hard, those extra miles would be worth real money to me, since the first 1,000 mostly goes into paying down the lease. -
mileage pay as an o/o is NOT what it's about. Worst thing you can do.
You want most revenue and minimum mileage. a week ago, I worked 3 loads. Paid $1050 for 300 miles total for the day. Each round was 88 miles total. I was never more than 50 miles from the house Followed that up with $1550 for 530 miles for a days work. $1850 for 650 miles.
Today, I am looking at two loads. Never more than 60 miles from the house. Total miles for the day, maybe 175 miles. Total revenue, about $850.
It's not about miles. It's about revenue.
You have to understand what are your fixed costs and you must cover EVERY month. As well as what are your variable costs and will only build if you move the truck.Zangief, Container Hauler and Bigdubber Thank this. -
I've heard tires are a big expense. Also oil changes while you're still under warranty. (Must be done at an approved shop.) I'm thinking the occasional realignment is necessary too. And glass damage from rocks.
If I'm going lease-purchase, it will be a newer truck. I doubt it will break down very often. Also if I want to buy a truck with bad credit, most of the lenders insist on a newer truck.
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