When the shipper doesn't have a truck scale

Excellent glad we are cool--anyway--most of the talk about 5th wheels is just one of the 10,000 plus reason I like my hood--(or some hate it LOL)5th wheel kinda irrelavent--can't get all that much weight up there anyway--and I am lucky only time I have to slide mine--is when i gotta pull my dumbassed cousins sliding tandem--as long as I am under my spread I'm fine--and like I said I know Im spoiled--because also--every load that goes on my truck is loaded exactly HOW I WANT IT so it is easier.
But I do worry that with some of the schools and truck companies that train--they get much too nitpicky and just add undo stress--Im sure you have seen it.
Be Safe--Enjoy your ride today!

 

About 15 years of hauling produce,

heavy and iced down.................

Might have moved the 5th wheel a handfull of times................

 

Really why bother--never ran a load iced that was anywhere near legal anyway--at least for the first 24-36 hours! LMAO
Just my $.02

 

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It's been about 24 hours since these statements were made & still nobody has been able to post the regulation numbers...hmmm I wonder what this means? I know that "we all" drive to the scale before we know 100% that we are at legal weights. But most of us know that we can get to it before we cross a state scale, or we look in the truckers atlas (that some posters in other threads, don't seem to think they need) to see where the scales are. And don't you feel so relived when you know 100% that you are legal,Ahhh !

Now back to the OP:

Going by what you said here, you ARE following your employers rules.
But, why did't you Call him, Q comm him or send smoke signals to him and tell him : "The nearest scale is 4 miles away, is it ok for me to go there and get scaled?" And if he said yes then say" Will you pay any & all tickets & fines that I might get if I was stopped?" And I'm pretty sure your Employer knew that this place didn't have a scale.

IF you had done something like I posted above, all of this would be N/A Heavy-Haul or not.

Probably would not have happened doing as I said above, because you would have been following their instructions.

Again, N/A. And I don't think you should have quit. Because you should have explained to them that you were following your employers orders and had them argue it with him.

Yada Yada Yada...

No as I explained above. NOW IF they had said "drive to the scale & you pay any fines ect, Then I would say YES it was reasonable to refuse the load.

Explained above.

 

i am not the one who said, nor do i know who said that, but read on...

many of us DID catch that..

opens the door for more of 'em mexican drivers, i'd say....

i got you covered.

rookie, all the freakin' way.....


ok, here is what i got from my supervisor, which i have said probably more than one time, that he frequently gets to give statements to law firms when truckers get into wrecks and other legal issues, here is what he said:

"if a truck has a heavy haul permit, it is only "up to" a said amount. now if THAT load is over the permitted weights, THEN the driver pays a fine from being over weight from the ORIGINAL 80,000 lbs..!!

now too, when ever there is ANY time that a driver NEEDS to scale his load, and is going to either a public or private scale, and as long as he has ALL HIS papers, including the log book, IF he gets stopped by ANY law enforcement person, the COMPANY pays the fines for being over weight, since the driver WAS on his way to a scale. all drivers should call dispatch, and when dispatch says "they will pay", then GO...." it's when the driver REFUSES to go to a public or private scale and drives on down the road, NOT CARING if he is over weight or not, that pays the fine when caught. that means he accepted the load and took full responsibility for it. but on the way to get scaled out...?? company PAYS....

now, the so-called lawyer the o/p contacted, by emails mind you, not in person, said ALL companies that have heavy freight must have a scale on the property....this is NOT TRUE...there are NO LAWS that say a business MUST HAVE scales on site, even the o/p's OWNER told him that.

the o/p made a fatal mistake, and was taken off that load, something HE DID NOT MENTION HERE, and he was made to wait for a while (few days i think) for his next load. when he got back to his company, he was given a letter or reprimand, and he chucked his stuff in his car, quit his job, and drove off......

NO LAWYER is going to be able to help him....he quit his job, with out cause, with out notice...he's probably trying to get unemployment now, which he very well may not be able to....

i am not allowed to post/paste here what he said on another website i am a member of. even if it was only the content, and NOT the website itself, so i can only say what i read, and maybe this is acceptable...??

he is screwed, and he had better know it...

dispatch, and the terminal manager told him to get to the scale and he refused....

well, que sera, sera..........

 

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I don't know what he posted other places, I'm responding to what was posted here. And the main point of my last post was all these posters saying "it legal" "it's in the rules but nobody has been able to prove it by stating the reg numbers. If it's not breaking any rules on here can you PM me where the other post is?

 

he mentions in his first posting the dispatcher told him to "chance it"..

by all accounts, YES be sure to ask a second time, if the company will pay for it..personally, i have never had a problem "running with it" either to the nearest set of scales to scale out, or even running down the road when i was unable to scale out... company paid the fines...but that was back then...will the company still pay today..?? i will say yes, they will. the customer has or soon will be, paying for that load.

it's not that it's going to be legal (per say) but what does one do when a scale is only 4 miles down the road...?? (this is not in any book that I HAVE available to me right now, and i venture to guess it is not written some where's...)

so what does one do, refuse the load, and quit, or buck up and get to the scale..???

 

Again, that all depends on who is paying the fines. That one fine I paid was the LAST fine I ever paid. And that was 18 years ago.
Now how bout that pm? Or is that a no no?

 

PM sent, i had to go back in my browsing history to find it.

 

got it...thanks