When to file on broker's bond?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by double yellow, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    I've only worked for 20 brokerages so far, but I've had 3 exceed their contracted net 30. 2 of them sent a check out the day I called, but I have one now that is making me a bit more uneasy. Called the number on the carrier packet and reached an after-hours recording -- at 11am on a Tuesday. Called the number on the FMCSA website and reached someone who acknowledged my invoice, but was unable to see when payment would be going out. She transferred me to a higher up which went straight to voicemail and I haven't had a call back in a day.

    I pulled up their DAT credit score and they have gone from a 97 credit score and 32 days to pay to a 92 credit score with 44 days to pay in the time since I hauled the load:

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    This is the brokerage arm of a decent sized international carrier (2200 power units, although under a different DOT#).



    How long should I give them? They're currently 5 days overdue and apparently with no pending payment...
     
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  3. paul_4lp

    paul_4lp Road Train Member

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    Gold Bond?? ?.......... I like that transporter movie
     
  4. 315wheelbase

    315wheelbase Heavy Load Member

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    I have always filed when a broker exceeded the agreed pay time by 5 business days,,usually after you file they call and send a check right away,,here is the story "you haul, they pay" they expected you to deliver on time and you expect them to pay on time as agreed,,be firm,,you have a contrct and when they do do follow the contract you must be ready to file against their bond,,
     
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  5. 48stater

    48stater Light Load Member

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    Day 35 I make a courtesy call. Since many of my invoices are still sent via postal mail, I assume some lag time. Day 45 I file on the bond. Like 315wheelbase said, usually after you file on the bond, the check follows quickly.
     
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  6. Skate-Board

    Skate-Board Road Train Member

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    You should be a member of OOIDA and just turn it over to them but freaking out 3 days over is a little extreme. You can write whatever you want on the invoice but that means nothing.

    By the name of your image I'm assuming this is NFI? If so, they are crap to begin with and you should have checked their credit first. If your on The Internet Trucstop you should also subscribe to the credit check option.
     
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  7. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    Invoices are not considered late until 45/days most bond companies won't even take your claim until that point one told me 60/days.....in 12 years I've only got screwed one time out of payment and this was not a broker just a O/O I was trying to help out.

    I call everyday after 45/days after 60/days I call twice a day I wright down date time and who I spoke too if they say a checks been sent ask them to verify the amount on the check and ask for the check number this keeps them from just saying yes it was mailed out.

    At the 60/day mark I send the paper work in to file on there bond and also send it to the load board I used I have found in the past that a call from the load board service they'll call with a com check same day.

    Good luck
     
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  8. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    How much does this particular crook owe you, op?
     
  9. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    0 now. After another day with no returned call from the broker, I called the bonding agent and inquired about the procedure for filing. After getting the bond #, she asked if I wanted to file (you can file immediately after it is due) & I said not just yet, but that I wanted to be prepared if it came to it.

    30 minutes later the AP manager that hadn't returned my call in 2 days called and said the check was going out that day. I presume the agent called the broker & said "hey what's the deal? you've got someone asking about filing on your bond." The check arrived today...


    The filing procedure would have been pretty simple: send the insurance agent copy of your carrier agreement, rate confirmation, invoice, & POD.
     
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  10. Skate-Board

    Skate-Board Road Train Member

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    Be prepared next time you call that broker.

    Let me see if that load is still available and I'll call you right back.

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  11. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    I know it's a small world, but I honestly can't see ever calling that broker. It wasn't just that they were late paying, but they gave me the run around too. I'm busy, I don't have time to be on the phone all day chasing down payment. 30 days is plenty of time to pay, let alone schedule a payment. And what's worse, they offered no excuse or apology for being over a week late!

    Who would want to work with me if I showed up for delivery a day late with no notice, had ducked phone calls, & then just shrugged my shoulders when finally confronted?

    So if they're ever in a bind & call me with an attractive load, I'll haul for them only with a modified rate confirmation with a schedule enumerating substantial late fees (comparable to their "quick pay" fees).


    Maybe one day I'll run out of brokers and regret my inflexibility -- it is a possibility. But for now I plan to stick with honorable people who abide by their covenants.
     
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