When will FMCSA force disc brakes upon the industry?

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  1. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    It still all comes down to money not safety......................

    In the real world of stop and go traffic, with limited stopping distance disc wins hands down. We all know that there is hardly any way to keep proper following distances, any and all vehicles (including other big trucks) will cut into the space. In most types of city driving, it is on and off the brakes the whole ride. In any type of down hill braking a disc system wins. If it was about safety we would already have disc on trucks, but it's about money.

    Mark
     
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  3. 3408

    3408 Light Load Member

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    What your saying sounds reasonable but I gotta tell ya. From a drivers point of view, I neither saw nor felt or heard of any substantial improvement in brake technology ( that worked ) over the course of the 19 years I spent driving trucks.

    So i'm questioning myself anyway, why would the technology suddenly improve to any great extent during the last twenty years? Just saying
     
  4. Saienga

    Saienga Medium Load Member

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    For 8000 years man couldn't fly, then in less than 100 he figured out how to go to the moon. Sometimes breakthroughs happen in a hurry.
     
  5. Phil Marwood

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    I have driven trucks in the UK with all around disc brakes & holy they can stop ! standard max weight in UK is 44,000kg & disc/ABS/EBA leave older drum brakes behind ! The biggest problem here in Canada/USA will be the trailers if Disc brakes are mandated though, I have already seen loads through the front of dry van trailers quite often & with disc brakes thats going to get worse & the deckers its going to be dangerous too, In the UK trailers have headboards so the loads are generally against them were as here the load is quite a few feet away from the headache racks & in an emergency if the load is already traveling & with disc brakes traveling faster, the driver is in much more danger ????? Just a thought !
     
  6. Phil Marwood

    Phil Marwood Bobtail Member

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    In the UK we run at 96,800 LBs so yes slower but more weight to stop ?
    Italy (i think) runs at 110,000 LBs ? both are standard max weights
    90 kph is 56 mph but downhill you can go as fast as anyone else lol (mexican overdrive) lol
     
  7. snowbird_89

    snowbird_89 Road Train Member

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    The Europeans have been using disc brakes since the 90's. I don't know why the Americans never caught on. I agree, American trucks should use them! Drum brakes are so unsafe.
     
  8. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    why give any body any more control over what we do and use it's not up to them if i run disc or drum brakes i pay the bills and i stop just fine
     
  9. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    I like disk brakes, but calipers are heavy and if you drive on rought roads they will go bad in a year..

    in mud disk brakes are useless. so for onstruction trucks they are useless.

    disks may crack wuth thermal stress.

    so, IMO, disk brakes and EBS are for highway trucking

    Good thing - really easy to change brake pads
     
  10. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    I worked in a logging camp when disc brakes first came out in the Ford crummy's, they would have to change the inner pad at 3 weeks, both pads at 6 weeks, and replace the hubs at 9. They had hubs stacked up finally we were allowed to retrofit back to drums.
    Disc brakes in trucks work great, If you do the stab braking method you will have problems, long light applications work the best. The insurance industry will get the regulations changed, every time a truck rear ends a car, and it does not mater if they cut you off and slam on their brakes, the insurance company pays.
    If you run drum brakes without shield in construction sites the brakes will not last either. and discs work great in pick-ups in construction sites.
     
  11. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    I work with disk brakes on trucks every day... more pain, but less accidents
     
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