When you drop a trailer, do it SMART

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by freightlinerman, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    I don't know why it is, when drivers drop a trailer they crank the landing gear down much further than it has to be. You have ALOT of mentors giving bad advice to students saying, "When you have a heavy load, it's easier to get in and out of the trailer if you crank it extra." No, it's not.

    Let me just say the proper way to drop a trailer. Lower the landing gear till the legs are about 1/2" from the ground and STOP. You can lower the air bags and pull out no problem. OR:

    Lower the landing gear till the legs touch the ground, pull out from under the trailer.

    "But then it's really hard to get back under." Oh for petes sake, lower your air bags before you back in, then when you're under raise them up and back up till you're latched. It's not hard.

    I'm tired of getting ready to hook up to a trailer and I have to lower the trailer because someone went crazy lowering the landing gear. It's a safety issue, I'm risking pulling something or slipping on ice putting almost my entire body weight some times on the handle to crank it up, and yes I'm in the lower gear. Stop complaining it makes it easier to get in and out if you crank it up extra. Let me put this in perspective for you, is it harder to lower your air bags or let off the clutch, which takes all but 5-10 seconds...OR, spending 2-5 minutes out there cranking a fully loaded trailer risking injury?

    This has ZERO to do with 11R24.5's or high profile 5th wheels, we are talking about company trucks that are all spec'd the same for a mega carrier. Please, stop it!
     
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  3. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    Huge pet peeve of mine as well. And it's always the one with a heavy load and balky landing gear sitting on a sheet of ice too.
     
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  4. brsims

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    Additionally, please please please make sure that trailer is road ready before you drop it! Yes, I realize we are all in a hurry. But how many times have we been pushed on time due to having to fix some other idiot's refusal to get a trailer inspected or fixed?

    Case in point: I'm currently sitting under a slinky load where the two slinkies at the rear got tired and laid down for a nap. Load isn't delivering until the sixth of January. I am taking this load down to the terminal and getting it fixed before I drop it somewhere for the next driver. Will it cost me time? Yes. But I'll know that the next driver won't have to deal with it, and will be safe driving down the road next to someone's family. And that, my friends, is worth far more to me than an extra hour or so.
     
  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Ok, but you'll change your tune when it's snowed 12 inches since the trailer was dropped "low", and is now heavy. A few, believe it or not, can't dump the air bags, and if they can, they don't do so at the proper time, simply out of basic misunderstanding of the process.

    Dropping 25,000 lbs an inch on already beat up landing gear by pulling out quickly (like many do) is kind of frowned upon by those who are responsible for maintaining and replacing equipment. But do it your way, and we'll deal with the issues later. Thanks.
     
  6. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I agree and it really is easier on the driver lowering it and the next driver hooking up.But some shag drivers would disagree.Tyson for example they have called kb on us local drivers so many times for not lowering the trailer to the ground because they couldn't get their trks under it,poor guys have to get their lazy ### out and dolly up.KB called me 3 times and told me to start lowering it all the way to the ground.That didn't go to well with me.So just to make those lazy yard dogs even more angrier,I lowered the airbags first then got out and dollied down.Made it 6 inches lower,lol.Last thing I need when the landing gears are so hard and stiff takes my entire body to raise and lower the landing gears is someone wanting me to make their job easier when they don't practice what they preach.I cant even count how many time those shag drivers have the traier a foot higher then the fiftyh wheel.Try dollying down in the freezing cold for 5 or 10 minutes.Then sometimes the trailer would be too close to the other trailer and couldn't dolly up or down.They aren't willing to work with me and kb wont tell them our issues well then I wont work with them either.
     
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  7. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    STEXAN, what are you talking about? If you're a company truck driver for the same mega carrier, we have the same trucks, same tires, same features like dumping the air bags. You didn't understand correctly what I said, I said lower the air bags if the landing gear is not touching the ground, then pull out. OR, just lower the landing gear till it touches the ground and stop. You don't need to lower your air bags for that.

    Ultimately, for everyone to make things simple, just lower the landing gear till it touches the ground and stop. OR, if you want to take it a step further lower it a couple turns till you hear the leveling valve on the tractor start to let some air out.

    If people don't understand the process of dumping the air bags, they shouldn't be driving a truck. Simple process, back up infront of the trailer, dump the air bags and wait till you hear the air stop hissing, or wait 10 seconds. This isn't rocket science. Back under, once the plate is under raise the air bags so there is no gap between the 5th wheel and trailer apron and back in, too easy. There are more complicated things, like shooting a game of pool.

     
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  8. roshea

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    one other consideration. If it is an air ride trailer, as most are these days, and the air bleeds off the trailer, the trailer bags will deflate. The trailer will pivot on the landing gear and the front will raise up. For a 53' with wheels at the rear the effect is not so great as if the wheels are slid forward. Likewise more effect on a 48'. And if you have a tanker (typically 42") the effect is more pronounced, and a 40' container chassis is similar. Worst case is a 28' trailer or 20' container chassis, the effect there can be very significant. Something to think about. If you are dropping the trailer to be loaded then dropping it a bit lower than normal is a good idea, especially with spring suspensions.
     
  9. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    If it's too low for them and they have to get out, then lower it ALL the way down so it's too high and they have to get out and lower it. What kind of trucks do they have that they can't hook up to it? Driver, here is a little advice, get a couple pieces of wooden boards and back the tractor under the trailer, if the landing gear is REALLY stiff, back up over the boards to raise the trailer and loosen some of the stress. I haven't tried this yet, but using theory and logic this seems like it might work.

     
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  10. rbrtwbstr

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    If you have to hook to a low trailer here's a little trick.....dump you air, lay a block of wood across the frame of the truck. Back under and air up. That takes the weight from the landing gear and you can now adjust it without working too hard. Just remember to remove the block before you hook up...
     
  11. tinytim

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    If you're all driving the exact same set up how did they manage to raise it that high? If it's that hard for you to lower it a bit it should have been almost impossible for them to raise it that much.

    Usually when I run into that it's at one of those place where we drop and then a yard dog moves it.
     
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