Where do I find HID conversion kits?

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  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Installing HID's in a factory housing that had halogens and was not engineered for HID is a foolish waste of money that will result in reduced visibility. If your truck didn't come from the factory with HID as an option you're throwing good money away.
     
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  3. Magnum1

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    Disagree 95%. - 5% goes to cheaply engineered ballast which takes a lot of juice. Modern kits are a lot better. The only problem is that now you need to find the one that will withstand the test of time. I used to sell kits that offered lifetime warranty but, I've replaced about 3 sets in one year. I now sell different hid kits which lasted fore about 2 years in automobiles without problems - my own experience. Now, I've installed one into my vnl series Volvo with no problems and the diff is unbelievable. If you are looking for good visibility of the road and not the blue light - I can help.
     
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  6. rollin coal

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    It has nothing to do with the quality of the ballast or other components. It has to do with the fact that the reflective surfaces in an HID lamp are engineered to a high degree so the light is scattered correctly. I have done one of these foolish conversions on a personal vehicle and regretted it. Visibility was reduced. There is a good reason the DOT frowns on HID conversions it's unsafe plain and simple.
     
  7. Magnum1

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    My brother did his as well - with not so good of the results. After he seen my work, he wished that he would've waited. If the hid's were installed then, there is no way the visibility could have been reduced. Because even the darkest hid produces more lumens then the regular bulb. Like I've noted before. Correct part for the correct application will make a difference. Even if your headlights are not adjusted correctly, you'll see the road better then the oem light bulbs. Sorry to say this
    But, theory and couple of the installs of the wrong type or the wrong kit will not stop the realization of the benefit of the correctly sized and installed hid kit. If you are happy with your current lighting, then keep it. I'm not trying change your mind about what you're currently enjoying. There is a reason why people install the hid kits in their vehicles. Like I've said before, if you like with what you have then keep it. If you want brighter visibility of the road, I can help. IMO, do not waste your money in changing things that you like.
     
  8. Hammer166

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    From the article in that link: (Emphasis mine)

     
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    I'll tell you this: if you want to prove me wrong: take two
    Cars/vehicles. Retro one with the hid. Park them side by side and facing the same direction. Turn on the headlights of one car and take the picture from the inside the vehicle. Then, do the same with another vehicle. Then, turn the light on, on the both vehicles, and take
    The picture inside the vehicle as well as outside - make sure
    That you're facing the same direction as the vehicles and
    Stay between the vehicles, behind the hood. Take the picture and compare. Unless you're using 100w low beam light
    Bulb, which might melt your wiring harness, the hid
    Will outshine, near and far, then the oem light.
     
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    You've written: The most dangerous part of the attempt to "retrofit" Xenon headlamps is that sometimes you get a deceptive and illusory "improvement" in the performance of the headlamp. The performance of the headlamp is perceived to be "better" because of the much higher level of foreground lighting (on the road immediately in front of the car). However, the beam patterns produced by this kind of "conversion" virtually always give less distance light, and often an alarming lack of light where there's meant to be a relative maximum in light intensity. The result is the illusion that you can see better than you actually can, and that's not safe.

    If I gather correctly. You're trying to say that I will get the maximum lighting in the locations with the oem halogen bulb vs hid? Do the test that I've written above - make sure you use 4300k or 3900 k
    Hid kit - quality kit. I really would like to see your results in the realm vs theory. I've done it. The only time I was able to beat the cheaper hid
    Is with the 100w or greater halogen bulbs.
     
  11. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Perhaps you should go actually read that article, and click on the one on the left of that page that talks about the disadvantages of HID. I'm not saying the halogen is putting out more light, but what I linked to also talks about the physiology of vision, and that more light doesn't necessarily yield better vision.

    And any HID in a halogen reflector will put out too much glare. I want to see, but not at the cost of blinding everyone who has the misfortune to meet me on the road.

    There is a reason why every OEM HID is a projector, but what do lighting engineers know? :biggrin_25524:
     
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